Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by Reika

I'm still waiting to hear some logical reason why 2 people of the same sex getting married in a game, or even IRL, would effect you in any way. How would you even know it happened? would you wait around the cathedral all day scouting for possible gay marriages? would you be unable to sleep at night if they added gay marriage? would the thought of a gay couple buying housing land in the same area as you make you uncomfortable?

Really, what is it. I'm not gay and I dont feel any of those things. I even have a gay room mate IRL, I dont feel threatened at the fact he likes men and would marry a man, and I wouldn't care if he did in a game or IRL. WHAT IS going on in your heads? really.

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While i don't care either way but for some people same sex marriage just shits on their religion cause marriage is something that is suppose to be sacred in a lot of religions, and from se's point of view a lot of places still don't allow it and its is looked down on, you guys have to remember they are a business and will always do what they see is best for their company.

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

As mentioned above, the thread was begun with the idea of the changing times and societally accepted norms shifting. If we begin there, we will probably end up returning to that point of contention over the course of the conversation.

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Uuuum, actually the purpose of this thread is whether the community wants same gender marriage ingame or not.

That a discussion about human rights and society occurs was likely to happen but it was not the purpose of the thread. The purpose was game feedback.

We just got bombarded by a pissed off Bahamut I don't think a realm rebuilt in the name of unity and peace would have any problems allowing same sex unions especially when most of their customers faced death together in the attempts to save these very same people.

Nophica and the patrons of Gridania support same sex unions!

I would also like to point out a psychological fact that people who are the loudest against an issue usually have something to hide in themselves regarding what they are advocating against.

This thread is going to end up locked unfortunately.

I'm really glad to see so many more people are ok with the idea of same sex marriage. Our society truly is heading in the direction of full acceptance of it and my partner of 8 years and I never thought we'd see that in our life time. There is still hope that one day we will be able to get married even here in the state of Florida.

As far as FFXIV goes, I would never use the marriage feature in the game at all, but I strongly feel that if it is going to be in game at all that it be inclusive and allow same-sex coupling as well. Love and let love.

The people who don't like it can go to hell. They no longer speak for the majority. Adapt or go extinct.

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Originally Posted by Kalaka

Kuzuk and Eagleheart, you are totally allowed to have an opinion. That opinion is completely valid. Do not conflate your opinion to be fact. Check out marriage around the world to see how different it is. As far as biology argument, yeah so infertile people of any gender should be married correct? As far as population goes, we are already straining our resources. I personally think the backlash from not adding it would fade in today's 24 hour news cycle. When all is said and done I think the best option is for SE to allow for players to do ceremonies on their own and not sanction any ceremonies as official in game. It save them the backlash from either side. Oh one last thing for you privileged folks, what is marriage but wanting to have one relationship validated? Yeah thought so you want yours validated, but refuse to validate others. Way to be a good human.

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Thats where this comes in:

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Originally Posted by Reika

I think having crafted wedding (or joining) items that one can trade to any gender they want as a marriage (or union) proposal or in the actual marriage (or union) would be a good comprimise to having GM sponsering either opposite or same sex marriages (or unions)

For rings, they are completely statless and the item becomes untradeable after being traded. Clothing and accessories can be made and sold/traded freely. Hopefully with the addition of signatures from the crafter on the crafted item, we can add a few lines of text too, so there can be custom wedding (or joining) vows on them.

This way SE just gives players the choice on what gender they are going to marry (or join with) without being directly involved. Not saying that is the best choice, but I think it is a good alternative. This way the ~vast minority~ wont whine about things that wont even involve them. It would also be easier not involved 'waiting in line' to get married (or joined) by a GM.

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Originally Posted by Kuzak

And in this case, it is a change for the worse.

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That is your opinion and I defend your freedom to hold it. The people who believe you are wrong have just as much right to live their lives as they see fit. You may feel free to practice marriage as you see it, you do not have the right to deny us the same privelige.

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Originally Posted by Firon

While i don't care either way but for some people same sex marriage just shits on their religion cause marriage is something that is suppose to be sacred in a lot of religions, and from se's point of view a lot of places still don't allow it and its is looked down on, you guys have to remember they are a business and will always do what they see is best for their company.

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Already submitted options to prevent them from having to condone or uncondone same-sex marriages.

Yeah! The world just got blown up, we need love to bring everyone together!

Hildebrand would approve!
http://i.imgur.com/uDs1Y.jpg

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Originally Posted by Eagleheart

Again, a cursory examination of the facts will reveal that what I said is true. (o.O)> Adieu.

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Translation: I'M RIGHT!!! BECAUSE I SAY SO!! THE ONLY TRUE WORDS ARE THE ONES I SPEAK!

Someone has a god complex.

I never understand why people get so upset over things that don't affect them... What other people do is none of anyone's business unless it negatively affects others in some form. This... does not.