Valentione's Day Items

Having unlocked the dress for my highlanders, the dress isn't anywhere near as bad as people were saying it was. Not even for tall races, because Roe, Elezen, and Viera look just fine with it. It was better to wait and actually try the dress, then to go by the screenshots of the smaller races.

https://i.imgur.com/fTv9FDj.png

Can't help but think a lot of the complaints against it was just entitlement, because the guys had some nice-looking glamour.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

Can't help but think a lot of the complaints against it was just entitlement, because the guys had some nice-looking glamour.

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It is. The Songbird outfits were different for the two genders but they were well received.

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Originally Posted by Sated

I'd have liked to try out the vest/shorts/stocking combo; maybe someday.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EPgJtqBU...jpg&name=small

I also drew my catboy in a dress and while it's technically SFW I'm hiding it behind a link because of wandering hands.

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I love both so much! But the catboy one oh my!

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

Having unlocked the dress for my highlanders, the dress isn't anywhere near as bad as people were saying it was. Not even for tall races, because Roe, Elezen, and Viera look just fine with it. It was better to wait and actually try the dress, then to go by the screenshots of the smaller races.


Can't help but think a lot of the complaints against it was just entitlement, because the guys had some nice-looking glamour.

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I like the dress itself but the clipping/dye is really annoying

https://i.imgur.com/2bEt7iQ.png

When using dark brown it looks like the non dyeable part is greyish and when using soot black it looks like purpleish.

That's too bad because I like its shape.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

Can't help but think a lot of the complaints against it was just entitlement, because the guys had some nice-looking glamour.

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Just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else should. As paying customers to the service provided we have a right to voice our complaints.

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

Can't help but think a lot of the complaints against it was just entitlement, because the guys had some nice-looking glamour.

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I was never a big fan of the dress because I didn't like its shape before, and I'm even less happy with it now. The clipping with my hands and tail is awful. If the skirt was narrower and the sleeves were a little different, I'd probably like it, but as it is I like everything BUT the dress about the outfit.

I love the guy's outfit though, and would love to have it - and as someone else said, to be able to mix and match the two.

I don't really think a lot of the complaints are "entitlement." Not that I've seen anyway. Seems mostly to be a matter of personal preference.

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Originally Posted by Gula

Just because you like it doesn't mean everyone else should. As paying customers to the service provided we have a right to voice our complaints.

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I didn't say everyone has to like it. But the amount of hatred the dress received before it was released was ridiculous. And sure, you can voice your opinion as a 'paying customer'. But doesn't guarantee they're going to do it.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

I don't really think a lot of the complaints are "entitlement." Not that I've seen anyway. Seems mostly to be a matter of personal preference.

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It's fair if it's not your thing. It's not even in my top favorite items. But it's far from awful and nowhere near as bad as the Faerie Princess dress, which can eat your hand. It seemed like a technical reason why their dresses aren't usually narrow.

I call it entitlement because for many years, one of the biggest complaints about FFXIV was that the game clothing designs "caters to female characters." People especially pointed out that Heavenward's AST relic gear was clearly designed for female characters. So you have a ton of players with male characters complain that they want their glam to be just as good as the girls'. On this very forum, people were answering them with "if you want it, then fantasia into a girl lol!" Suddenly, male get something well-designed, then those same people telling them to fantasia want it unisex

Poster in 2017: If you want it, then fantasia into a girl
Same poster in 2020: We should have the right to choice glams

Funny, because no one complained about the songbird gear being gendered

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

I call it entitlement because for many years, one of the biggest complaints about FFXIV was that the game clothing designs "caters to female characters." People especially pointed out that Heavenward's AST relic gear was clearly designed for female characters. So you have a ton of players with male characters complain that they want their glam to be just as good as the girls'. On this very forum, people were answering them with "if you want it, then fantasia into a girl lol!" Suddenly, male get something well-designed, then those same people telling them to fantasia want it unisex

Poster in 2017: If you want it, then fantasia into a girl
Same poster in 2020: We should have the right to choice glams

Funny, because no one complained about the songbird gear being gendered

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You are my new favorite person on the forum. And bonus because you are a Roe. I like Roes, XD.

Also are any other Male lalafells gonna try and pair the vest with shorts, instead of the given pants, to try and look as adorable as possible?

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Originally Posted by REPROBEAN_CHILD

Funny, because no one complained about the songbird gear being gendered

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Oh people complained just nowhere near as much because the quality between the two sets was equal, this year's Valentione day sets are not, the female one has an bit of a clipping problem especially with just standing around hands go through it, coupled this with the knowledge that removing genderlock on old gear pieces is being a thing (When is another matter) people are just wanting this bumped up in the queue to remove it faster since there are fewer suits for females.

Personal note I'd love the tights females get for my male characters yet we got another set of pants, your running out of trouser lengths SE (This one is slightly longer than Butler's while not as baggy as Clouds) :P

I love how people want to try to invalidate opinions with 'you're ENTITLED'... what a crock.

People want equality in the choices in how they glamour their characters, just like how they dress IRL. And it is no one's business how a person dresses IRL OR in-game. I'm a small petite girl IRL and I DESPISE frilly cute little dresses. I want bespoke vests and slacks for no other reasons than I find them more comfortable and freeing to move in. That's all. It's just my preference. And I find it more aesthetically pleasing to me. I should have that same freedom in-game. I've said so for LITERALLY YEARS. This isn't some new phenom just because I find 'this particular dress' unpalatable. It's the same for others.

'But Tsal, I haven't seen as many people saying so! That means it just hasn't been as big a deal!'

Well, that's bully for you? Maybe you weren't on the forums as much? Or weren't talking to EVERYONE? Your sample sizes are limited and skewed.

Also, NO ONE is trying to 'take away' the nice male glam. Just because they want to open up the CHOICE FOR EVERYONE doesn't mean it suddenly GOES AWAY from the dudes. Good grief. That's the most childish take I've seen yet. Kindergarten was supposed to teach people what sharing entailed, right? That opening things up to everyone doesn't actually take the thing way from others? Check that out, it's a thing. Also, if the B2 glam, the Bunny glam... and every caster robe glam that dudes wear hasn't made people with so-called 'traditional values' (what?) keel over... opening up choices for everyone to wear what they want... removing the gender-locks won't either. Just saying.