I expected absolutely nothing and was still disappointed with Ultima.

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

I'm on Primal, not Aether, but my point wasn't really that I personally had difficulty with him, just that people can be really, unforgivably, heinously, atrociously BAD in the 24-man raids. It's not unreasonable to believe that groups could wipe on the DPS check.

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I ran Weeping City twice. First was a hideous wipe fest that couldn't get past the second boss. Second was only just before Dun Scaith release to get the clear. I won't be going back.

I cleared Dun last week but am reluctant to go back as it's more of a "8 people trying & 16 coasting" raid where most people are barely able to keep up auto-attack levels of damage or healing. Primal truly is hideous regarding the amount of people who expect to be carried. Annoyingly, some of them must be good players because they often have excellent gear. It's the lack of interest that's the problem.

I'm on Primal too! I had mostly good runs in Dun Scaith as DPS and there was this one where the first set of crystals spawned adds. I didn't know until last weekend those cryatals can spawn adds... >.>

With Proto Ultima and emotions that go straight into the cash shop, I would say this was actually a really garbage play from SE.

I wonder how they'll mess up Stormblood?

You don't even need to kill Proto Ultima to get the quest completion. I joined "in progress" at the last boss and as soon as I left Dun Scaith I got the quest completion for the i270 accessory item.

Perhaps the group I joined had killed him so it triggered for me as well, but I wasn't even in the raid at that point.

I had at least hoped that it would be something like Odin. You know at least story wise a little more than "oh random thing is in our raid, hurry and kill it..". Not only would it have been way more awesome to have this as a trial, but PU also did not fit into the overall design of the raid. I mean we have this nice mhach city and bamm...this thing.

It was also not that interesting of a fight and I want the succubus back, it at least looked sexy. Why put even any bit of developing time into a monster that is nothing more than a trash monster anyway? I mean they could have just given us the weekly quest without Ultima being part of it.

I really thought that this would be some kind of test for new content like true 24 man trials yet it was the same disappointment that I felt after that hyped up Titan fight..that should have been something cool and new and was only Titan with some new text..really why should I feel hyped about anything anymore? Better to just wait and be skeptic..

The only interesting thing of this patch will come on Thursday and yet even that has a weekly restriction if I am reading it right..well at least I wont feel bad when I am playing the new zelda game. d^^