Stop wining and learn to play Black Mage at 60 instead of asking it to be easy whie dealing op damage. Black Mage is has flat out 20% more single target potency than Summoner which more than compensate for the damge loss in movement. I swear Black Mages wont be happy until theyre have twice the amount of potency as the Summoner with a dummy proof rotation.Quote:
Originally Posted by hallena
How is BLM in new expansion?
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06-27-2015, 10:27 PMAkiza
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06-27-2015, 10:41 PMTman00You seem to assume that all BLMs want to outdo SMN for whatever reason. I can't speak for everyone like you are, but I want to be equal grounds with SMN and both be good fights while SMN is a bit better at some fights while BLM is a bit better at others. I want us to all have fun and play. Not have this discussion and fighting with SMN mains and BLM mains. So please understand why most BLMs are complaining and either give consecutive advise on fights like some have like Bismarck EX and the safe spot or give some possibilities on how to fix this mess. We can all be happy, it doesn't have to be one or the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akiza
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06-27-2015, 10:48 PMAikaalAre you God damn blind? Summoner rivals BLack Mage on a dummy parse single target. Since when BLM do 20% more single target DPS. But let me tell you something about the reality of fights. While you have to move as a summoner, the spells you can't use are Miasma I, Bio II, Ruin 1 (lol), Ruin 3, Shadowflare. Everything else can be use.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akiza
What Blackmage CAN cast while they have to move. Scathe, 100 potency.
The only reason SMN was held back in FCoB is because of their mana issues. Otherwise BLM and SMN would have been equal.
Do you want the list of reasons why you shouldn't bring a BLM? Here it is;
BLM and SMN single target DPS is alike but BLM lost a lot more from mechanics and mobility than SMN
SMN do 50% more AoE than BLM
BLM can't use they utility spells or they might lose their AF stacks because SE thought it was smart to force 2 different kind of Grease Lightning type mechanics on a caster.
They nerfed Manawall so you can't escape mechanics to keep DPS
To make it worst, Casters are suppose to be high AoE DPS. They've insanely buffed SMN and they thought it was smart to nerf BLM AoE. There is not a single reason to bring a Black Mage in progression. While Bards have their own issues, they provide great raid utility. They will keep their spot. Some Black Mages will force their group to keep them and be a nuisance more than anything else but smart groups will ask BLMs to roll SMN or they'll find somebody else.
All the Summoners I see post on this thread are ignoring the First and Second Coil facts. They were better because mana was not an issue. They were behind in T8 only because of mana issues and in FCoB they had this problem on all fights. Guess what, you don't have mana issues anymore. BLM had issues on their own and SE decided to worsen it. I don't know why Summoners think this way because you are clearly not seeing the truth if you think BLM was the best caster in the entire 2.0 They gave you awesome new abilities. They fixed your issues and your job is complete. What did we get in 3.0? We replaced F1 with F4. It's the same old boring thing. I am really unhappy with what I got and this is why I'll raid as Summoner until they rework my job. I don't want potency increase from my abilities. I want something to counter my weakness. -
06-27-2015, 11:21 PMwaifugenerator
It's be cool if they could give you an oGCD that lets you move while casting for 10s at like 1/4 or 1/2 potency, it wouldn't fix a lot of the issues but it'd at least be a bandaid
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06-27-2015, 11:22 PMDrakolos
The DPS of BLM and SMN at singel target can be equal. The biggest difference between them is that the BLM need full experience and coordination of the fight where the SMN can have the same amount of DPS on his 1st try.
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06-27-2015, 11:31 PMToasterMan
Well I tried doing Bismark EX as a black mage yesterday and there's no way I'm going to be able to progress in Alexander if its anything like Bismark like this. Am I going to have to abandon Black mage and roll a new job? I don't want to have to play Summoner since I hate pet mechanics and I'm not very good at summoner at all. On top of that I would have to level it to 60 and that's gonna take me awhile. What should I do?
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06-28-2015, 12:06 AMZeyphr_DarkshadowI'm in the same situation. I've mained BLM since 1.0, and loved it all the way. Now i have time limits making me NOT MOVE EVEN MORE, and mechanics that MAKE ME MOVE EVEN MORE. It's so stupid that every single move in a fight like Bismarck Ex, interrupts, to then finally start another cast, to be bombarded with AOE's i need to dodge, to then realise my enochian has ran out and i can't do shit anymore. SO annoying.Quote:
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06-28-2015, 12:37 AMMistyMew
imo blm needs some serious tweaking hotfixed today, to adapt to continual excessive never ending, overused, ridiculous, movement fights.
ease off of the non stop aoe or extend timers.
you did bad se...
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06-28-2015, 12:59 AMSessurea
Havent played blm/smn outside of loldungeons, but if blm and smn are parsing equally on a dummy there is a very serious issue here. It's as dumb as a bard out dpsing a monk on a dummy almost.
New blm rotation is "rocket science" as me and my friend often joke. BLM was always the hardest class to optimize a fight on ( and by optimize I mean near top possible dps for a blm in that fight ) and now with stuff like leylines and enochion it's seems just.....overwhelming on a dummy, god I can't even imagine what it would be like in a stressful raid setting. -
06-28-2015, 01:02 AMhallenaFollow your own advice. Maybe for once you would say something that isnt completely stupidQuote:
Originally Posted by Akiza