Market Wards, enough is enough

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I'm off on a whirlwind quoting adventure!

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Originally Posted by Shai

I don't want to start an argument about it and I know multiple teams work on multiple things, but someone is animating jump could just as well be animating me summon Ifrit.

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Originally Posted by Shai

Um, no, I even said [I know there are different teams]. Are you being sarcastic? The fact remains though that "a different team" would have to make a functional Auction House, not a brand new team. What would we sacrifice...?

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Originally Posted by Shai

How do you know which teams work on what?

A TEAM WORKING ON THE AUCTION HOUSE IS A TEAM NOT WORKING ON SOMETHING [ELSE].

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Originally Posted by Shai

Different teams work on battle than work on Company do they not?
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I'm not a game designer so explain it to me other than saying "there's more than one team."
I know that. I said it myself multiple times.

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Originally Posted by Shai

You could win this battle if you presented answers to the questions I'm asking.

Go ahead and continue to say "different teams exist" ad infinitum though.

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...is this enough fng times to get through your head, Kilta, that I know there are multiple teams? Do you want to say it one more time to make yourself feel smart?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

actually read our replies you twit. a games economy is a different beast then a games battle system. Similar to a cake maker and a fry cook. You not going to a sushi bar to order a cake..... and you wouldn't order a burger from a bakery. Learn to get with the program and look this up, any college as this info online.

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I read all your replies. They all said multiple teams work to protect the queen ant or some stupid shit. You aren't explaining to me AT ALL why a team working on an Auction House (that the game already has in the form of a Market Ward) isn't a team that could be more useful working on something else, nor have you explained in any way shape or form why they wouldn't halt production of new items while working on the Auction House.

I have already ADMITTED I'm not an expert. The burden of proof is on you.

Your claim is that working on an Auction House would not hinder production of something else useful, nor would it hamper the flow of new items/recipes due to "different teams." Prove this.

My claim is that an Auction House "team" would be developers not working on another project (not sure how to prove something as common sense as this) and that we might delay content that includes new items & recipes based on evidence of creating a new battle system.

I presented my proof and evidence and admitted I'm not a developer. Now, prove to me why I'm wrong - and I probably am - but don't tell me to go look it up myself on any old college website. Are you or are you not an expert?

(If not STFU and let someone answer who is).

So.

they asked everyone what they wanted, they wanted a auction house
and now they arent gonna do it ?

the ward system is HORRIBLE, and thats why everyone want an auction house, how many polls is needed ?
i thought they started working on an AH after the poll, but it seems nothing is started. that means it would take several months for it to even be implemented.

so much players will be lost over this :(

Even the Icon Creator of Black Ops is bugged as hell, but they aren't gonna do anything about it and the players aren't complaining.

wait, why did I write that.

Ah yea. Moving on... that thread.

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Originally Posted by Elexia

Why? lol. The MW's are in essence an AH system. It does lack only a few features that an AH has, most people do assume it's a quick miracle fix yet ignore the similarities of the system, thus why everyone say it's not a quick fix.

MW only lacks a delivery/storage/buy from search system..that's about it. Anything else would further the argument that people feel an AH is a quick fix.

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Lacking the ability to buy and sell from a search feature is what I would like to see implemented into the game. I can not believe that so many players told SE they wanted this and we're being totally disregarded for "improved" stability for retainers. I have waited, support, and cheered SE on while they have been redoing functions of the game. Players voted for more content and an Auction House in large numbers and now we hear they aren't even working on an Auction House. I'm absolutely disheartened now.

@ shai I gave you examples. read them.
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1 the market team ONLY works on the market system.
2 the battle team ONLY works on the battle system
3 the market team CAN NOT work on the battle system and vis versa.
4 the reason is there is different coding and machanics.

is that easier for you to read now? Will you stfu now?

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

If there were someone working on an AH, yes, there would be.

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No kidding. That team would either be a team previously "the market ward" team or made up of new individuals working on other teams - blah blah blah - so in other words this "AH Team" would not be working on something else. As I said. They have to come from somewhere. They have to stop or finish something. They aren't just magicking up new teams from thin air.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

It's the same people who would be working on the current market system. If one team is working on better functionality on the market wards or creating an AH, it wouldn't take away from anything else because they were not there to begin with.

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Except one could take 2 months and 1 could take a whole year to implement. We could not have a search feature and the wards could be crashing every 20 minutes. Instead, this "team" is fixing all that. You say this is a good thing or a bad thing? Market Ward functionality does exist because this team did not transform into "Auction House Team: ASSEMBLE!" They did the job they were originally assigned. So far we're on the same page.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

You're a smart girl/guy. You can't figure it out? Yoshi even said himself he still divides the development team up to focus on their respected areas of content and/or systems as Tanaka did. The only thing that was lacking was communication. Between each other and especially the community.

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Figure what out? That there are separated teams? No, I think I proved that I understand that well.

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Originally Posted by BruceyBruceyBangBang

So, while collecting what the players want most between all of the systems and potential content, they are taking advice on what each team should focus on. AH low in the polls? That doesn't mean the team in place for developing that goes anywhere else. That's just a hint that they should be working on ward functionality before creating new market systems.

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There was no team in charge of developing one. An AH doesn't exist and until that poll there would be no reason to make an AH or have a team that develops an AH. You just said we're talking about the Market Ward team. They would stop working on the Wards, or divide their efforts, and be working on an Auction House. I thought we just established that.

You don't answer why implementation of new gear & recipes would or wouldn't be on hold while an entirely new system of how to process and transfer said "new content" between players was being developed. That is why we haven't had any new content that involves battle - what leads you to believe this would be different with items?

What makes items different? I'm not a programmer, but I appreciate you think I'm smart so lay it on me.
I know I can wrap my brain around it if someone tries to explain it.

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

@ shai I gave you examples. read them.
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1 the market team ONLY works on the market system.
2 the battle team ONLY works on the battle system
3 the market team CAN NOT work on the battle system and vis versa.
4 the reason is there is different coding and machanics.

is that easier for you to read now? Will you stfu now?

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No, because all you say is there are different teams. It's redundant and monotonous.
I'll just talk to Bruce and anyone else who wants to actually answer the question.

Thanks for trying, though. You are free to go.

And i can tell you didn't read the ant anology as it is the perfect example of a developement team. I suggest you read it this time. You canb not have a soldier ant hunting food..., or a tunnel builder protecting the queen. That is not their purpose.

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Originally Posted by Shai

No, because all you say is there are different teams. It's redundant and monotonous.
I'll just talk to Bruce and anyone else who wants to actually answer the question.

Thanks for trying, though. You are free to go.

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the teams are seperated for a reason as each part they work on is coded differently. They can not work on coding that they are not good at. Get it know?

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Originally Posted by Kilta_Firelotus

And i can tell you didn't read the ant anology as it is the perfect example of a developement team. I suggest you read it this time. You canb not have a soldier ant hunting food..., or a tunnel builder protecting the queen. That is not their purpose.

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Different teams. Got it.

Carry on.

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Wait did I imply that soldiers should make an Auction House?
If so, I apologize, Kilta. I see why you're confused.