Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

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Originally Posted by Fresky

I remember my first time doing O8N. I looked around the platform and asked in party chat “can you fall off?”
One of the healers replied “yes” followed by “let me show you” as she jumper off the platform after the fight has started. It was not really a big deal but I found it to be pretty funny.

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Sometimes a good practical demonstration is fun lol. Anyway, I do remember months back when I was still going through the story and learning RDM and had to fight Titan again for one of the MSQs. Thought I had enough room to use Displacement after the melee combo... Ended up touching the ledge for a split second before I watched in horror as I instead kept falling down rather than stick the landing. I still get flashbacks doing any of Titan's fights, even after learning my lesson that day...

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Originally Posted by Sesera

Well threat dumps have like 3 minutes cd so you can succeed at not stealing aggro for one pack but when it's on cooldown, beside throwing a spell every 5 seconds to be sure you don't pull aggro I don't see what you can do more. Maybe waiting a bit for the tank to generate aggro if you see he is struggling.

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True, but the poster I responded too specifically indicated having issues with boss fights not trash.

That was some Dun Scaith...

6 new people apparently and I went on RDM (instant queue). I died four times over the course of that fight and none of them were even my fault. Three of the deaths were during Scathach and one for diabolos. First Scathach add isn't tanked leaving me to die slowly (or quickly since it's only 2 hits). During her special the adds aren't tanked and I take aggro on one of them. Tanks "finally" got aggro but not after I'd died. Lastly the second add that spawns again is not tanked and I rip aggro on it and die but not after the entire raid wipes because everyone was too busy tunnel visioning on Scathach and it did Full Swing.

Then my final death was during normal Diabolos during the stack marker. Some reason our tank who was the MT thought it'd be a good idea to stack with a boss that cleaves so everyone got cleaved twice.

I implore all tanks, if you queue for alliance roulette.... TANK. And also raid awareness because cleaves. I can only use Diversion and Lucid so much.

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Originally Posted by KaldeaSahaline

For reference - I only use 3 enmity combos per dungeon. One for each boss in ShO and then I swap to SwO and proceed to DPS. I don't think I've ever had anyone pull off me in the pull. While the tank definitely sounds like a goober, you did openly admit to failing to utilize your threat dumps efficiently so there's room to improve!

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I'm not saying tanks should just do enmity combo's or arguing "tank's job is to tank, leave dps to the dps." I appreciate tanks (and healers) that try and push what they can and even appreciate the slip-ups that may come from optimizing that process because I feel its an overall benefit to learn just how far it can be pushed.

But when a dps is arguably using threat dumps efficiently and has an average time between diversions (has a cooldown of 2:00) of 2:15 or 2:12 if we ignore the flub halfway through on the first boss; the situation with the chimeras couldn't have been avoided by myself as diversion was on cooldown unless I choose to waste mana generation and/or gcds as lucid doesn't help in that situation until after the enmity is generated. And have a tank reprimands the dps for not doing enough to control their aggro while the tank themselves is not using the (more available) enmity tools at the tank's disposal is disheartening.

Like Sesera said, short of just not casting there was no more I could do to control my hate. The tank was not struggling to generate hate, they had felt that one or two enmity combos was enough and then felt tank dps combos with having actual dps stop were more efficient then an extra enmity combo (didn't even have to be done in grit).

It's no different then a dps stealing hate and running around away from the tank while still dpsing and then criticizing the tank for not taking the mob back sooner. It is a team effort on all sides and it goes so much smoother when when the one party doesn't just expect the other party to carry the weight.

I did a run of Doma Castle yesterday as my BRD and holy crap was it slow. The sad thing is is that I'm partially to blame for this. Both the SAM and I still had our Shire weapons, the tank pulled small groups, and the healer never dpsed. It was so different from what I'm use to when I run as WHM. The run took like 30-40 minutes.

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Originally Posted by ChaoticCrimson

when I was still going through the story and learning RDM and had to fight Titan again for one of the MSQs. Thought I had enough room to use Displacement after the melee combo... Ended up touching the ledge for a split second before I watched in horror as I instead kept falling down rather than stick the landing.

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I love watching RDMs do that, lol. My FC does maps every Sunday and usually our DPS is usually all RDMs (mostly because melee in the canals is no fun and RDM is really fun) and every single week at least one of them flips off a cliff. ... The other times someone is Rescue'd off a cliff.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Apparently, Roes are only allowed to tank or do some melee dps like mnk or sam. We're not allowed to be healers or casters. Being a ninja is a big no no cuz we're too big.

I had a catgirl once telling me I should be tanking due to my size once (I was lvling blm at the time). I told her lvling that job was already boring, I didn't need to tack on a generic appearance on top of it.

The other two lalas laughed and one of them kept using esuna on the catgirl. Made my day xD

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*laughs* That's awesome.

I strongly dislike it when players try to tell other players what they can be. If a roegadyn wants to be a healer or a caster, all power to him! It's cool!

Is there some special advantage to not turning an AST sect? Because I'm not seeing it. I have an alt on aether and my cohealer was an AST in sigma 3.0 normal. Never turned it on at all and yet kept using aspected helios.

Like I said in previous pages, I hate it when my cohealer is an AST. They either don't turn on sects or overwrite my cards.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Like I said in previous pages, I hate it when my cohealer is an AST. They either don't turn on sects or overwrite my cards.

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Ohhh, the cards are the worst sometimes. You'd think them letting us see what cards each other has would help keep people from overwriting them, but no. Some people just completely lack situational awareness.

Makes me think of a good Duty Finder story though:
I was running the Alliance Raid Roulette back when they removed held cards from the status bar. Both my cohealer and myself were playing AST, and we managed to keep from overwriting our cards by letting each other know when we had a good hand up and ready. We eventually had it down to where we could keep necessary buffs up almost constantly without voice communication or the ability to see one another's cards.
It felt great to have some coordination with another healer instead of fighting them for once.

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Originally Posted by Mesarthim

Is there some special advantage to not turning an AST sect? Because I'm not seeing it. I have an alt on aether and my cohealer was an AST in sigma 3.0 normal. Never turned it on at all and yet kept using aspected helios.

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I have to admit I forget to turn on a sect a lot. Sometimes I've just switched to AST from another class, sometimes I've just been in a lower-level dungeon that deactivated sects, and usually I'll only realise when I've tried casting Aspected Helios a few times and I'm wondering why the regen effect isn't activating....