Gender locked race?

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Originally Posted by ShinShimon

90+% of the playerbase will be fine as long as there is one new male and female option with the expansion. Making two different one-gender races is a perfectly legitimate use of their limited resources.

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Woah where are you getting 90% out of? If these forums are any indication there are certainly more people who want both genders of Viera than gender locked races. A lot of people on other sites are constantly drawing male Viera, and even some go as far as to break the game rules and run around with mods to give them Viera ears. Pro-gender lock supporters have been the minority as far as evidence suggests.

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Originally Posted by Rokke

At least from what I quickly skimmed, the bulk of (if not all?) the updated rules are for player/player interactions in-game. They wouldn’t really change people’s interactions here, on reddit, twitter, conventions, etc. Excluding people arguing in area chat, I don't really see the overlap...

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I thought these apply to the official forum too? Still, a lot of discussions take place in-game regardless.

I'm sure everyone concedes that having both genders of any race we get would be the better option. But I think it's pretty ridiculous if you think there's going to be a huge blowback all over social media if they announce hrothgar, akin to the diablo immortal announcement.

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

((The fact that I'm having to argue about lore friendliness with another male cat

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Fighting is what cats do.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

Male Viera were already in Ivalice lore is pretty much the same context as this, the only new stuff is a bit of flavour on their mating practices.
Male Viera were always meant to be a mystery.

And we still know jack all about the circumstances and extent of the Rak'tika greatwood being burned, or the Viera's place in that wood.
You seem to have already concocted your own headcanon.

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Concocted my own headcanon? What? No dude, I just read the lore. Unless Yoshida is just showing us one small forest fire that has no tie into the war; was just someone carelessly flicking their pipe ash onto some dry wood.

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Originally Posted by Seraphor

I think you're so deep into this male Viera 'movement' if we can call it that, that you've lost perspective.
There won't be as big of an outcry as you've implied, some, but in no way comparable to Diablo Immortal.

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No, it wont be that bad. But it will ding the game. It will get coverage that most likely wont be all that favorable for ShB. Since were still in the pre-order phase of the game, you will see cancellations regarding it adn it will hamstring some of the hype. Again, consider a marketing perspective : Would you, a game dev, Go against what your fans want and introduce something that will directly impact the hype being generated for your upcoming xpac all because of superficial lore that is kinda flimsy at best?

If they gender lock, hype will die down and youll get more volitility, regardless of what hrothgar are. Theres no hype in hrothgar currently among the fan base. No in game mentions except via glitches and subtle retcons, no mention of them from any previous Fan Fests, no artwork or dialogue regarding them from devs. Theyre all but a ghost of a rumor at this stage. You would be killing a hype train and expectation that has a part of the player base enthusiastic about the xpac just for a bait and switch that no one was really asking for and has no hype behind it. Would you think that would be a good move?

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Originally Posted by Melichoir

If they gender lock, hype will die down and youll get more volitility, regardless of what hrothgar are. Theres no hype in hrothgar currently among the fan base.

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I will support people to want male viera if that happens but lets say it was literally ronso . . I'd be so hyped XD. H Y P E ! Now with our given information they're probably not literally Ronso, but lion-like and "sort of Ronso like". Besides if the other race was locked (if it's a thing, seems likely but we don't have a 100%er) then I bet a female version of that would be pretty great to have.

I think it would be best if SE gets a negative reaction about no male viera, if that's a thing, and I assume they would get some amount, that they then should very quickly give a coy "Viera's story isn't over, please look forward to it :)". And be sure to work male viera into 6.0.

I'm not saying people who want male viera would be like "YES, SE THATS IT!" lol, clearly releasing them at the same time is what someone who wanted male Viera wants, but I imagine you would take a huge momentum hit out of the hate train that might happen from no male viera.

Not saying there wont be male viera, just to be clear to anyone thinking I'm saying that - just suggesting SE has the ability (I think) to cause a significant cut out of any rage if they quickly played into the hate like "Ah ah ah.. We're not done~!" lol.

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Originally Posted by Lauront

I thought these apply to the official forum too? Still, a lot of discussions take place in-game regardless.

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iirc we have a separate GM team watching over the forums. As it is we can suggest but not feasibly enforce gameplay here, we can't RMT or plan wintradeing, we aren't allowed to swear at each other, comments with slurs are deleted, personal insults can get you temp'd, etc. Its same old same old here.

In-game there will likely some folks arguing in busier hubs, but thats already a thing on our server- as long as you aren't going off the rails I wouldn't be concerned. FC/LS chat would require your own circles to be reporting each other so if you're in good company go ham. Or just use Discord.

March’s fanfest can’t come fast enough...

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Originally Posted by redcurrant18

((The fact that I'm having to argue about lore friendliness with another male cat is so absurd considering this race/gender combo wasn't playable until they finally decided to listen to what people wanted.))

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It's okay, they flat out ignored me pointing out that Keeper males are just as, if not more, rare than Viera males.

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Another thought, if there were no male Viera, the Rak'tika Greatwood fire could never be used as an excuse since the game starts years before it even happens lol.

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Originally Posted by Fredco191

March’s fanfest can’t come fast enough...

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Right? It's been only two weeks and already this thread is one of the longest ones I've seen on the forums. I imagine though, that after fanfest if there is no male Viera, we'll get an even longer thread requesting them to be put into the game.