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10-05-2013, 04:40 PM
Medieval

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Originally Posted by Alvana

Twister are from Dreadgaurds naow? Nice, did not know.

Shush, I am human. Eitherway, I was trying to make the point that it seems twister is out of place of what can and can't be made immune towards. At least ADS and titan make a bit of sense.
10-05-2013, 04:50 PM
Alvana

When you'll see the video you'll be like oh damn, it was that easy!
10-05-2013, 11:54 PM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by Alvana

When you'll see the video you'll be like oh damn, it was that easy!

Are you having fun trolling this thread?
10-06-2013, 04:24 AM
Bartisaur

Looks like another group killed it. Not sure if it's bugged though. Will not link the pictures since it may contains pictures that can be considered as "spoilers" by some.

http://www.reddit.com/r/ffxiv/commen...cially_by_jps/
10-06-2013, 06:16 AM
vRoad

They posted on twitter about it.

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https://twitter.com/eLsA_noob/status/386534900754440192
Somehow, it is beaten badly but it because I was a decent gruel over debug 's report on the way the operation to find the bug Rather, but I think that we should be praised ...

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https://twitter.com/eLsA_noob/status/386522281855303682
Say because over it becomes big deal it is diffused from the delivery of the mad dog's something, but because I just got beat by chance bug?
10-06-2013, 06:36 AM
Pellegri

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Originally Posted by vRoad

They posted on twitter about it.

So it sounds like they're saying they should be praised over finding the exploit.....wonder if they actually think they're the first ones to find it. But ofcourse now it will probably get dev attention since it will be posted in Japanese where as core problems just get laughed at as being silly when they're reported in English.
10-07-2013, 11:25 AM
Faction

Has anyone tried Turn 4 with a WAR mting? Maybe killed it even?

Not complaining or anything I'm just wondering.
10-07-2013, 11:35 AM
NeoAmon

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Originally Posted by Faction

Has anyone tried Turn 4 with a WAR mting? Maybe killed it even?

Not complaining or anything I'm just wondering.

Did it with WAR OT, I wonder how would it work if he was MT. Not that I doubt WAR but our PLD is almost full ilvl90.
10-07-2013, 11:39 AM
Yenn

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Originally Posted by Faction

Has anyone tried Turn 4 with a WAR mting? Maybe killed it even?

Not complaining or anything I'm just wondering.

Yes. We stopped until he leveled his PLD.
10-07-2013, 12:39 PM
Faction

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Originally Posted by Yenn

Yes. We stopped until he leveled his PLD.

That's about what I figured!
10-07-2013, 12:44 PM
Zeigus

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Originally Posted by Faction

Has anyone tried Turn 4 with a WAR mting? Maybe killed it even?

Not complaining or anything I'm just wondering.

We got world 5th turn 4 w/ a warrior OT so it can definitely work.
10-07-2013, 12:47 PM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by Zeigus

We got world 5th turn 4 w/ a warrior OT so it can definitely work.

Notice the question was about a Warrior MT, not OT.
10-07-2013, 01:29 PM
Zeigus

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Originally Posted by Xilrasis

Notice the question was about a Warrior MT, not OT.

My bad. Too mentally retarded to notice.
10-07-2013, 04:28 PM
Kaan

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Originally Posted by Faction

Has anyone tried Turn 4 with a WAR mting? Maybe killed it even?

Not complaining or anything I'm just wondering.

We did this fight with a tactic were we didnt get 2 Dreadnoughts at the same time up.

I think if you do it like that, also a Warrior should have no problems to tank that.
Video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgteZgL4N4M
10-07-2013, 05:49 PM
Faction

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Originally Posted by Kaan

We did this fight with a tactic were we didnt get 2 Dreadnoughts at the same time up.

I think if you do it like that, also a Warrior should have no problems to tank that.
Video --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgteZgL4N4M

This could work for last spawn, but there's also the 4 stack dreadnaught to worry about. He already does like 80% hp bursts to a paladin, would be pretty hard for a warrior.
10-07-2013, 05:50 PM
Galaxia

Why some people think that the majority of players cares about if a linkshell is world first , second or blah blah blah, they don't.. Specially when everything on this game is glitchable, please stop that crap.
10-07-2013, 09:22 PM
Syncness

The purpose of stating world fifth was obviously for readers to gauge how limited gear the off tank had when performing said role.
10-08-2013, 12:56 AM
Req

How do you even determine world 5th on an instance that gives no sort of indication you have even beaten it? Also, at what number people stop pointing out they were "world xth" to beat an instance?
10-08-2013, 01:45 AM
Xilrasis

http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ister-mechanic

Twister Bug Report Thread -- Please contribute if you are at this stage.
10-08-2013, 01:52 AM
Sygmaelle

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If 2.1 brings 3 encounters to the table

Actually no. New primal, extreme mode, new raid and new hard content only for LVL 50, + I mean, hardmode treasure hunting people. HARDMODE TREASURE HUNTING. Doesn't it sound already fantastic ?

Otherwise, I have a question regardin melee dps, do I need 470+ acc for turn 4 and 500 for turn 5 ?
10-08-2013, 02:13 AM
Pellegri

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

Actually no. New primal, extreme mode, new raid and new hard content only for LVL 50, + I mean, hardmode treasure hunting people. HARDMODE TREASURE HUNTING. Doesn't it sound already fantastic ?

Otherwise, I have a question regardin melee dps, do I need 470+ acc for turn 4 and 500 for turn 5 ?

It's 472 the whole way through.
10-08-2013, 02:50 AM
Sygmaelle

Thank you !
10-08-2013, 03:04 AM
Sygmaelle

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Also remember that a principle of computer science will most definitely apply here: One group (or even several) simply eventually completing the encounter will NOT provide definitive proof that it is not broken. It must be globally and consistently repeatable for all inputs. (which still does not prove bug-free or unbroken in a scientific sense, but hopefully you understand the correlation)

There were some boss raids like that in previous mmos, notably age of conan and his bat of nergaal, where like let's say, not more than ~100 people were able to kill it. Simply because it was really weird tact wise (ADS and his rot is simply a redo of, but on less people) and totally unforgiving. Fully functionnal, not bugged, not broken but simply not accessible either.

And what to say about Yog Sothoth that maybe like, 3 raids completed, worldwide xD. Never get nerfed either, fully functionnal, but just THAT hard. If the main issue of Twintania is simply a positionning update server side, it does indeed suck big time tho :/
10-08-2013, 03:11 AM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by Sygmaelle

There were some boss raids like that in previous mmos, notably age of conan and his bat of nergaal, where like let's say, not more than ~100 people were able to kill it. Simply because it was really weird tact wise (ADS and his rot is simply a redo of, but on less people) and totally unforgiving. Fully functionnal, not bugged, not broken but simply not accessible either.

And what to say about Yog Sothoth that maybe like, 3 raids completed, worldwide xD. Never get nerfed either, fully functionnal, but just THAT hard. If the main issue of Twintania is simply a positionning update server side, it does indeed suck big time tho :/

To be fair, the number of people playing AoC at that point was probably less than 100. Not the biggest sample of talented players to choose from. :D

But I understand where you are coming from. Pretty sure (again, unless there is some hidden obscure mechanic) that it is bugged.
10-08-2013, 04:56 AM
ChanceSkeleton

Yo, someone answer this for me. Can I join Turn 2 if I haven't beaten Turn 1 yet?

And if I beat Turn 1, I can't do it again until reset?
10-08-2013, 04:58 AM
Pellegri

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Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton

Yo, someone answer this for me. Can I join Turn 2 if I haven't beaten Turn 1 yet?

And if I beat Turn 1, I can't do it again until reset?

You can join a turn 2 group if you haven't done turn 1, however you cannot go back and do turn 1 until reset, just joining the group for turn 2 will lock you out of turn 1 if you go in the instance. Also yes if you beat turn 1 you cannot do it again till the next week, coil resets the same time myth cap does.
10-08-2013, 05:00 AM
Laela

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Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton

Yo, someone answer this for me. Can I join Turn 2 if I haven't beaten Turn 1 yet?

And if I beat Turn 1, I can't do it again until reset?

1) You can join Turn 2 if your party leader is at least at that point. Once you join a run at Turn 2, you won't be able to backtrack to Turn 1 for the rest of the week.
2) Yes, and reset is every Monday at 8AM PST (JP Tuesday 0:00AM)
10-08-2013, 05:03 AM
ChanceSkeleton

So the people jumping into Turn 2 lose out on the Turn 1 loot if they join a T2 party? That sounds like ass.

EDIT: Another questions: if I beat Turn 1 in group A and my friend beats Turn 1 in group B, can me and my friend do Turn 2 together?
10-08-2013, 05:31 AM
Xilrasis

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Originally Posted by ChanceSkeleton

So the people jumping into Turn 2 lose out on the Turn 1 loot if they join a T2 party? That sounds like ass.

EDIT: Another questions: if I beat Turn 1 in group A and my friend beats Turn 1 in group B, can me and my friend do Turn 2 together?

Yes on both accounts.
10-08-2013, 10:01 AM
NeoAmon

If it was not for the possibility of FCs selling Coil runs I would have wanted for S-E to let us do any turn we want without a reward if we have already completed turn 2 for example. Like today we have to postpone our Coil farm until tomorrow due to one member being stuck at work. It sucks but I guess it is better than watching people run around in Coil drops + AF1.

Edit: Already bad enough that I keep seeing people with Relic and full AF 1 gear + lvl 30 white accessories. Takes the entire meaning of accomplishing anything :(

Edit2: b4 any smart*** tells me real accomplishment = RL education/work/life, FYI I'm an Electrical Engineer, married and have 2 monkeys (kids)
10-08-2013, 10:21 AM
Faction

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Originally Posted by NeoAmon

If it was not for the possibility of FCs selling Coil runs I would have wanted for S-E to let us do any turn we want without a reward if we have already completed turn 2 for example. Like today we have to postpone our Coil farm until tomorrow due to one member being stuck at work. It sucks but I guess it is better than watching people run around in Coil drops + AF1.

Edit: Already bad enough that I keep seeing people with Relic and full AF 1 gear + lvl 30 white accessories. Takes the entire meaning of accomplishing anything :(

Edit2: b4 any smart*** tells me real accomplishment = RL education/work/life, FYI I'm an Electrical Engineer, married and have 2 monkeys (kids)

Wow, that was a random tantrum.
10-08-2013, 10:25 AM
NeoAmon

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Originally Posted by Faction

Wow, that was a random tantrum.

haha it was ^^. We were talking about it in TS and everyone were like "if only we could go back to previous turns so we make sure no one misses anything" I was like F No. So came the random rant ^^.

Plus the previous questions before my post ^^.
10-08-2013, 08:19 PM
Magnesium02

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Currently, the Binding Coil of Bahamut 5 is experiencing a confirmed issue wherein the monster becomes immobilized under certain circumstances.
For this reason, starting from 11:05(GMT) until this issue has been addressed,
the Binding Coil of Bahamut 5 will be temporarily unavailable.
In addition, we apologize, but players who are in the middle of participating in the Binding Coil of Bahamut 5 at the designated time of 11:05(GMT) will be disconnected and returned to the location they were in before entering the instance.
For details, please see the News section.

looks like they figured out how to fix it
10-08-2013, 08:55 PM
Rhained

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

looks like they figured out how to fix it

Sounds more like they just figured out it IS an issue.
10-08-2013, 10:56 PM
Lefeauge

Does anyone know the Accuracy that mages should be hitting inside The Binding Coil?
10-08-2013, 11:00 PM
Sorbet

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Originally Posted by Lefeauge

Does anyone know the Accuracy that mages should be hitting inside The Binding Coil?

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Originally Posted by Zdenka

I've only played BLM on Turn 4 so far, it seems 445 on Turn 4 is sufficient but not sure about Caduceus etc.

10charrrr.
10-09-2013, 01:19 AM
Pellegri

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

looks like they figured out how to fix it

Well there's the exploit issue....after it was posted in the Japan forums. Now let's see about the other issues that make the fight unbeatable.
10-12-2013, 10:27 AM
Rumstein

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Originally Posted by Magnesium02

looks like they figured out how to fix it

Well, if they figured out HOW to fix it, I doubt that it would be down for the entire week...

They just decided they didn't want any more people to bug it is all.
10-12-2013, 06:32 PM
Andybell256

hoping that SE fix more than just the glitch for turn 5 in the week its been down and fine tune some of those mechanics a little better kinda been a bit bored this week with no twintania
10-13-2013, 09:32 PM
Lucifina

So, about turn 4. Is it doable with 3 magical dps?

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