Heals for Scholors need a buff

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

show me a vid of faerie in hard mode chain healing b4 u say bs. Any experience sch knows that faerie isnt perfect compared to regen.

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I have an idea, why don't YOU post a video with Eos in range of the tank *not* casting for 6 seconds when (s)he's missing HP.

That is such a ludicrous claim I can't believe you're even posting it. A 4-6 second delay on the Faerie healing would make Scholar healing impossible. It's been noticed, acknowledged, and praised by several posters that the Faerie AI has no delay or susceptibility to latency.

Edit: Updated to respond to your insane logic. Even if it took Faerie 4-6 seconds to heal 300 value, regen still takes 5.5 seconds to do the same amount of healing and costs a WHM mana.

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Originally Posted by Scerick

Fixed.


4) Wrong, she starts heals on my tanks when they are missing less than 20% of their HP. It's based on the amount missing, not the percentage. She will wait for DPS to be lower than the tank to start a heal which is where I'm sure you're getting this 70% nonsense. Even if this were the case it's irrelevant considering most tanks during progression get hit for 50% of their health pool on Ifrit.

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I have noticed mine will wait until someone had taken a more significant amount of damage and then chaincast two or three embraces extremely quickly instead of keeping people topped off at a more reasonable level.

Generally the problem occurs when are chain healing physick and aqua while trying to get the faerie to heal, sometimes the command doesnt go thru.

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Originally Posted by Tersia

I have noticed mine will wait until someone had taken a more significant amount of damage and then chaincast two or three embraces extremely quickly instead of keeping people topped off at a more reasonable level.

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Once you get to a point where your tank has 6000 hp, she won't wait as long to start a heal as you currently see at lower levels when players have HP pools that are closer to the tank's total HP.

She heals the tank like crazy when she's in range (use place). There are often times where you will be in range to heal the tank, but Eos is not in range and won't heal at all.

One example: I have found that placing Eos on the tail of Ifrit increases her healing throughput exponentially vs. letting her follow me around.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

Generally the problem occurs when are chain healing physick and aqua while trying to get the faerie to heal, sometimes the command doesnt go thru.

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See above. And again, if you are spending time clicking Embrace vs. placing her in range and letting her heal on her own you are wasting time and making things infinitely more complicated for yourself with zero benefit.

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Originally Posted by Scerick

Once you get to a point where your tank has 6000 hp, she won't wait as long to start a heal as you currently see at lower levels when players have HP pools that are closer to the tank's total HP.

She heals the tank like crazy when she's in range (use place). There are often times where you will be in range to heal the tank, but Eos is not in range and won't heal at all.

One example: I have found that placing Eos on the tail of Ifrit increases her healing throughput exponentially vs. letting her follow me around.



See above. And again, if you are spending time clicking Embrace vs. placing her in range and letting her heal on her own you are wasting time and making things infinitely more complicated for yourself with zero benefit.

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So you suggest i rely on the bad ai and let eos heal on her own during hard modes? lol

Most hard modes a small deficiet is bad, because of the one shot potential (e.g titan). Like someone said before she will wait till the peeps are much lower hp(especially non tanks).

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

So you suggest i let eos heal on her down during hard modes? lol

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If you're trying to micro Embrace, you are doing it wrong - it's really that simple. All you are doing is delaying your own heals from being cast and healing priority targets.

If you're trying to micro the AoE regen, +20% magic protect, and +increased healing that's fine.

So it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Proper placement of the Faerie (in range of the tank) and trusting the heals to be there is more productive, better throughput, and ultimately makes you a better healer.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

Most hard modes a small deficiet is bad, because of the one shot potential (e.g titan). Like someone said before she will wait till the peeps are much lower hp(especially non tanks).

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That's what your heals are for, if you honestly think that it's better time spent commanding your pet to cast a 300 value heal, vs your own 600-1350 value Aqloq or 400 value Physik you need to re-evaluate your skill priorities and this conversation is a lost cause.

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Originally Posted by Scerick

If you're trying to micro Embrace, you are doing it wrong - it's really that simple. All you are doing is delaying your own heals from being cast and healing priority targets.

If you're trying to micro the AoE regen, +20% magic protect, and +increased healing that's fine.

So it depends on what you are trying to accomplish. Proper placement of the Faerie (in range of the tank) and trusting the heals to be there is more productive, better throughput, and ultimately makes you a better healer.



That's what your heals are for, if you honestly think that it's better time spent commanding your pet to cast a 300 value heal, vs your own 600-1350 value Aqloq or 400 value Physik you need to re-evaluate your skill priorities and this conversation is a lost cause.

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LoL so bad schs keybind embrace ? btw you prove regen better then embrace, regen will always heal every 2.5 , faerie will only heal by herself if target is at a % hp deficeit

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Originally Posted by Leiloni

Where do you get the idea that Regen only heals for 300 potency? For one thing it's a 21 second HoT with an instant cast time, not a 23.5 second HoT. Secondly it heals for 150 potency per tick for 7 ticks for a total of 1050 potency over 21 seconds.

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The way the tool-tip was phrased in Phase 3 (and maybe 4) described it as being 150 value spread out over the 21 seconds.

New tooltip:
Grants healing over time effect to target.
Cure Potency: 150
Duration: 21s
Recast Time
2.5

So you're right on my values being incorrect.

However, the 23.5 seconds comes from having to wait 2.5 seconds to cast your next Regen, as I was responding to someone talking about casting 2 regens for the 300 value (150x2).

So we're really looking at Regen doing 150 value after 3 seconds, and 300 value after ~5.5 seconds for 22.5 seconds. Which makes regen an extremely powerful spell - and definitely better than Eos's Embrace by itself.

Thanks for the clarification and fixed said posts with your correction.

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Originally Posted by sharazisspecial

LoL so bad schs keybind embrace ? btw you prove regen better then embrace, regen will always heal every 2.5 , faerie will only heal by herself if target is at a % hp deficeit

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Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells or vice versa - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

And Eos get's a 100 value HoT that can be applied to 8 targets. Why are we even comparing a single target pet heal to regen from a class ability?

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Originally Posted by Scerick

The way the tool-tip was phrased in Phase 3 (and maybe 4) described it as being 150 value spread out over the 21 seconds.

New tooltip:
Grants healing over time effect to target.
Cure Potency: 150
Duration: 21s
Recast Time
2.5

So you're right on my values being incorrect.

However, the 23.5 seconds comes from having to wait 2.5 seconds to cast your next Regen, as I was responding to someone talking about casting 2 regens for the 300 value (150x2).

So we're really looking at Regen doing 150 value after 1 second, and 300 value after 3.5 seconds for 22.5 seconds. Which makes regen an extremely powerful spell - and definitely better than Eos's Embrace by itself.

Thanks for the clarification.



Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

So yes, you're bad.

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Physick 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd
Aqum 1.94 cast 2.4 gcd

I mash embrace while healing so in the .5 sec of time i should be "free" to give command
Normally heals occasionally doesnt.

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Originally Posted by Scerick

Considering it's common knowledge that you can't cast your own spells when trying to cast pet spells - you just admitted you prioritize using a 300 value heal from a pet instead of one of your own 400 or 600-1350 value heals in clutch situations.

So yes, you're bad.

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Actually he's right, it's better to control your pet manually. Your pet's GCD is separate from your own, so if you keybind his skills and tell him to cast Embrace right before you cast your own heal, you and the pet can both heal the same person at the same time nonstop. You're not using your own GCD to tell the fairy to heal and he then can cast the skill while you cast your own. All you do is instant click the Embrace keybind, then click your own heal. What you can't do is cast your heal first and THEN tell the fairy to heal, but you can easily do it the other way around, which makes total sense if you think about it.