M4S has officially been beaten without healers in week 2

clemency isn't even the issue.
Since it is a GCD it makes replacing a healer with a PLD spamming clemency suboptimal.
Here the issue is the PLD did not even need to use it. Pretty sure the reason for 4 Tank was for support/dps pairs consistency + triple cover was nice since no LB tank.

Ï think it is great, it is difficult to do, but it can be done is the key factor, 99,99% wont do this, so it is irrelevant to complain about it as it is.

I think it is something nice to see for a chance and I applaud that team for getting away with it.

It is way more than savage doing this without healers, I salute these guys.

Now can it be done with just one healer and more DPS to make the fight faster, is the question.

I like this video..

It is showing how the current job system is so bad to the point where healers are not the only healers in this game

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Originally Posted by angienessyo

Well, I would argue that healing is obviously still a thing that's required as they brought a bunch of tanks that have a healing spell haha Though I don't think clemency should be good enough for this to be possible. Tank sustain is just too good these days.

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Just to test the difference between Clemency and Cure 2.

PLD ilvl 689
WHM ilvl 686

Cure 2 = 34k heal
Clemency = 30k heal + 15k Self heal

The difference on the target is largely negligible but that extra self heal means that clemency is just an overall more potent heal.

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Originally Posted by angienessyo

Well, I would argue that healing is obviously still a thing that's required as they brought a bunch of tanks that have a healing spell haha Though I don't think clemency should be good enough for this to be possible. Tank sustain is just too good these days.

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They literally never even cast Clemency once in the whole fight. Just as a heads up.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

Just to test the difference between Clemency and Cure 2.

PLD ilvl 689
WHM ilvl 686

Cure 2 = 34k heal
Clemency = 30k heal + 15k Self heal

The difference on the target is largely negligible but that extra self heal means that clemency is just an overall more potent heal.

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I think we can change PLD color from blue to green at this point at least light green

the real green job is WAR

okay, M1S was cleared with all tanks. Where's my DPS bros' complaints at?

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Originally Posted by Ritsugamesh

They literally never even cast Clemency once in the whole fight. Just as a heads up.

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also, please don't spread misinformation.

https://i.imgur.com/2HXGgYs.png

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Originally Posted by Ritsugamesh

They literally never even cast Clemency once in the whole fight. Just as a heads up.

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They do cast clemency, just without DPS loss because it's during the time boss is untargetable (cannot be hit).
Which just means tank DPS is unaffected, and tanks already have higher DPS than healers.

It just shows that healers are just weaker in all aspects. Less HP, less defense, less DPS.

Unique ways to save the party? They don't have cover. They don't possess invuln. They don't have strong ST mits like tanks with their 25s cd skill.

Idk what healers are really designed for at this point tbh.

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Originally Posted by AnotherPerson

They do cast clemency, just without DPS loss because it's during the time boss is untargetable (cannot be hit).
Which just means tank DPS is unaffected, and tanks already have higher DPS than healers.

It just shows that healers are just weaker in all aspects. Less HP, less defense, less DPS.

Unique ways to save the party? They don't have cover. They don't possess invuln. They don't have strong ST mits like tanks with their 25s cd skill.

Idk what healers are really designed for at this point tbh.

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They're designed to use LB3 after the party inevitably fails Sunrise Sabbath. It's pretty goated.