why the crystal tower raids are still part of the roulette?

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Originally Posted by kaynide

It’s what the devs decided to do; when you join a roulette, you agree by the rules of how the roulette functions and agree to take whatever comes. If you specifically want to do something else/specific, you have the option to queue for that.

The point of the roulette is to help people who need bodies getting through the content they have unlocked and are geared to do. An unfortunate subset of players will purposefully game the system, but I would wager it is by far less than people are complaining about.

To change it is to waste time on very niche coding, or to force people to do content they don’t want to (HW and later raids), or force people to buy/find gear to do a thing they were already allowed to do. Your boredom or dissatisfaction at getting the same ol same ol is irrelevant.

So, even though you don’t like it, in the 8 or so years the system has been in place, the Devs have been satisfied and not interested in making major changes. People getting bored is not the priority- there is other content you can engage in. See Castrum for situation where major changes WERE made, forcing people who were “bored of waiting for cutscenes” to wait for the newbie.

The priority is the hyper-casuals/first time MMOers who would just as soon quit and go play candy crush, not the “oh man I gotta do this again…” crowd.

Or, TL;DR: Working as intended.



I don’t think you understand how many of the people running roulettes are on free trial accounts or statistically leveling low jobs. Or there are people like me who would never run the 70+ on purpose. Or there are people who wouldn’t iLVL cheese because morals, but with this system they can essentially have the same result by guaranteeing they don’t get a 70+ raid.

You would only make the 70+ roulettes take longer to pop….

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yes the devs and "god yoshi" made a really stupide easy to see mistake. one that easy to fix as well. the problem is yoshi and his ego. he really not willing to admit he made a F mistake. how much of the cornet problems are because yoshi wanted something to be a certain way even if its was a clear mistake ?

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Originally Posted by TaleraRistain

This would hurt people on Road to 80 servers. I have multiple level 70 characters on my Marilith alt and *just* hit SB. I was well into 60 still in the middle of HW. So people should just be locked out of their daily because SE makes them level too fast?

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It's fine to hurt those leveling up as opposed to stab at veterans, it's a choice I always will make.

New players don't pay my sub

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Originally Posted by raelgun

It's fine to hurt those leveling up as opposed to stab at veterans, it's a choice I always will make.

New players don't pay my sub

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or just do not hurt any one. there some easy ways to make so all get it good. now no one do. i personally know lots of people that DO WANT TO DO OTHERE ALLIANCE RAIDS but cant as they wait times are longer that the time they have to play. all of them are people that plays a year or less so new players. the current stat of things not exactly help new players that much as well. to do msq maybe but what after it?

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Originally Posted by raelgun

It's fine to hurt those leveling up as opposed to stab at veterans, it's a choice I always will make.

New players don't pay my sub

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No but they keep the lights on.
An MMO without new players is a stagnant one, and a far less profitable one.

The only way an MMO can sustain itself off veterans alone is if those veterans are absolute whales.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

No but they keep the lights on.
An MMO without new players is a stagnant one, and a far less profitable one.

The only way an MMO can sustain itself off veterans alone is if those veterans are absolute whales.

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sad but you are correct to a point. a game like ff14 can live on the veterans just fine but new players bring in the big cash bursts

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

sad but you are correct to a point. a game like ff14 can live on the veterans just fine but new players bring in the big cash bursts

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I don't think that's true. New players aren't more likely to bring in cash "bursts", but they replenish the sub fees lost by those older players leaving for one reason or another.
I'm also not convinced it would survive for long with only vets. Might stumble along for an expansion or two, but without new blood, the game will feel a lot more dead, especially with how much of it is geared towards new and leveling players. That's my opinion, anyhow.

but they are as they BUY the game when older players d not. they can buy some extra cash shop things when older players did it by now. now to survive of the vets mostly yoshi will need to humble the F. he will need to stop pretend as if he is THE PLAYERS and start hearing what players really want. we all know he socks at this. so there a big 50/50 if ff14 can live off veterans or not.

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Originally Posted by magitekLuna

but they are as they BUY the game when older players d not. they can buy some extra cash shop things when older players did it by now. now to survive of the vets mostly yoshi will need to humble the F. he will need to stop pretend as if he is THE PLAYERS and start hearing what players really want. we all know he socks at this. so there a big 50/50 if ff14 can live off veterans or not.

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That's not really a cash "burst" though is it? It's just steady income as new players come in, buy the game and a sub.

I think anyone claiming to know what the "players" want, is 9 times out of 10 talking bollocks, even players.
A lot of the time players don't even themselves know what they want, and most of the time it's going to be determined by what echo chambers they choose to reside in.

I think Yoshi and the team do a good job. They have a clear vision for the game, even if that's not for everyone, and they are willing to take into account player feedback on the little details like balance and QoL.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

That's not really a cash "burst" though is it? It's just steady income as new players come in, buy the game and a sub.

I think anyone claiming to know what the "players" want, is 9 times out of 10 talking bollocks, even players.
A lot of the time players don't even themselves know what they want, and most of the time it's going to be determined by what echo chambers they choose to reside in.

I think Yoshi and the team do a good job. They have a clear vision for the game, even if that's not for everyone, and they are willing to take into account player feedback on the little details like balance and QoL.

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I think anyone claiming to know what the "players" want, is 9 times out of 10 talking bollocks, even players.?? well clearly i can say what i want may be some people i know. if you as a dev give half a fuck you ask the players and see what most want. then start to do what the most want and go on as long as its not contradict one one another . clearly yoshi never cared.
A lot of the time players don't even themselves know what they want?? i mostly know what i want. think is each player can want different things that not necessarily work at the same time.
I think Yoshi and the team did good in 2.0, really great in 3.0. dropped the ball in 4.0. got unbelievably well made expansion in 5.0 but then the ball was dropped even more in the later patches. they got lucky in the same time people was feed on WOW and ff14 was the only big mmo at the time that was not dead. then the fails of new world bring them even more players. by now the game bleed players. most of the wow players returned to wow. new world is some wat ok now so some people returned there as well.
lots of older players that are the most important to make happy are not happy as we get more pf the same and problems being ignored. new content fails to last for even a weak by now. at this point the game lives on a BIG part of the players that play this as an online sims over an mmorpg. so i cant say yoshi doing good job, the devs are. to bad yoshi calls all the shots and devs need to work for free out of work hours to add things they want to the game.
as to take into account player feedback, show ne when was the last time they did so? go ask the healers.

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Originally Posted by Iyrnthota

No but they keep the lights on.
An MMO without new players is a stagnant one, and a far less profitable one.

The only way an MMO can sustain itself off veterans alone is if those veterans are absolute whales.

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Haha, please tell me how the game has more content per patch, how the patch cycle is shorter oh wait. Get back to me on that one.
Game did fine in the past with a smaller base then now, you need to focus on vets to keep the light on and push devs to push out more and timely good content