The Lessons Not Learned.

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Originally Posted by Stormpeaks

Say that to all the people attacking OP.

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Doesn't answer my question tbf. I'm asking you. I was told I was wrong for pointing out that OP seemingly has shields defending him. Yet I see you here seemingly doing that. I won't say that's 100% what you're doing but I'm wondering if thats the goal here or if you're really here to talk n discuss

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Doesn't answer my question tbf. I'm asking you. I was told I was wrong for pointing out that OP seemingly has shields defending him. Yet I see you here seemingly doing that. I won't say that's 100% what you're doing but I'm wondering if thats the goal here or if you're really here to talk n discuss

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You came to the wrong place if you are after people looking to discuss, because you won't find it here.

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Originally Posted by IkaraGreydancer

Doesn't answer my question tbf. I'm asking you. I was told I was wrong for pointing out that OP seemingly has shields defending him. Yet I see you here seemingly doing that. I won't say that's 100% what you're doing but I'm wondering if thats the goal here or if you're really here to talk n discuss

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It's exactly what's going on. Every so often, we get these garbage takes posted and some people actually white knight the fool in question with their own baseless and awful takes.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

It's exactly what's going on. Every so often, we get these garbage takes posted and some people actually white knight the fool in question with their own baseless and awful takes.

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Thing is I don't think they realize many people would actually be more civil if OP actually discussed things with people. To many times they drop these topics, says a few things to take the high road then dip while others finish for them. Again I won't call it coordinated but it happens all the time. I've asked OP many normal questions but never get a response as ik I'm ignored by him n many of his friends

Also to the person below me...is OP you alls martyr or something?

Honestly glad my subscription expired Thursday Aveyond. I am finally free from this gods awful game. Please continue being the voice of reason amongst the toxic positivity here.

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Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams

For a blessing, the Manderville Weapons aren’t the dreaded joke weapons from the Weapon Design Contest

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Contrary to this, I'm kind of low key disappointed that they weren't the joke weapon winners, because I really want to see those weapons added to the game asap. Some peope might be mad about those weapons, but they are outliers. We get those fun weapons once upon a lifetime.

I didn't especially love the Manderville weapon designs because they look kinda generic, giving a "I've seen something like this before" vibe - I hope it turns out to be (subjectively) better with the next steps.

I'm sure the fun weapons will be in there somewhere.

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Originally Posted by Deveryn

I'm sure the fun weapons will be in there somewhere.

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Well sage got tiny spaceships xD

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Originally Posted by Raikai

Contrary to this, I'm kind of low key disappointed that they weren't the joke weapon winners, because I really want to see those weapons added to the game asap. Some peope might be mad about those weapons, but they are outliers. We get those fun weapons once upon a lifetime.

I didn't especially love the Manderville weapon designs because they look kinda generic, giving a "I've seen something like this before" vibe - I hope it turns out to be (subjectively) better with the next steps.

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it'll probably be added to the Gold Saucer

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Originally Posted by Avoidy

Basically if you're the type of person who's bored by normal difficulty stuff but either can't get 8 people together for savage or you just aren't interested in the prog process of wiping for potentially weeks because of other people, you get 1 EX trial roughly every time a new tier comes out and that is it. And people sorta stop running it after the first week because of how the content rollouts work. For example, when Barb EX came out, a week later the new savage came out so everyone I knew stopped caring about barb EX and the PF quality plummeted. I might be off-base here but I think the game's making a mistake by not appealing to this middle of the road group. Maybe criterion dungeons will scratch that itch. idk. People have been asking for harder dungeons for years, but the way the devs phrased its implementation, it sounded like they wanted to just make even more shit for the savage raiding crowd, since it's tuned for savage bis. I genuinely wonder if there's even a place for mid-tier difficulty stuff in this game anymore.

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Lately, I frequently feel like social media is strangling the middle of the road, the ordinary gamer (who are likely like myself, older, decently skilled but definitely had our gaming prime years ago) - specifically, the community's massive over-reliance on Discord.

I'm not against the idea of hopping in voice for content that benefits from it, I'd be fine with having to install Ventrilo or TeamSpeak like old times, but Discord specifically is problematic - specifically the way their Trust and Safety enforcement works, which more or less makes it impossible to run a publicly visible community unless you have an incredible amount of free time. As a result, middle of the road working adults are shut out from having much of a voice; the public face of XIV's community disproportionately slants to the hardcore crowd and SE likely is influenced by what they see.

We need a new platform. Even going back to TS/Vent/IRC would likely be better than the warping effect Discord (a fitting name) has. I'm not sure how to go about persuading people to stop doubling down on Disc, though :(