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Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne

Should we be surprised anymore at this point? The game literally told us to give commendations to players who left ’positive impressions’ to us. It can mean many things depending on each individuals.

At this point this thread is sounding really like a vague attempt to request a damage meter. SE will never agree to that.

/shrug

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Far more than just a damage meter. It's rather a desire for a more comprehensive measure for player performance. Alot more goes into pulling off those BIG DEEPS than just hitting buttons good. Buff alignment, group mit so healers can more effectively dps, minimizing deaths/debuffs, tanks understanding boss movement speed and facing after mechanics to allow dps to squeeze out positionals more easily, dps taking the opportunity to get in these positionals, etc...

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Far more than just a damage meter. It's rather a desire for a more comprehensive measure for player performance. Alot more goes into pulling off those BIG DEEPS than just hitting buttons good. Buff alignment, group mit so healers can more effectively dps, minimizing deaths/debuffs, tanks understanding boss movement speed and facing after mechanics to allow dps to squeeze out positionals more easily, dps taking the opportunity to get in these positionals, etc...

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Why would players in casual duty-finder content that you can clear by pressing three buttons ever need metrics or feedback on any of these things? If someone really cares about these things, they already aren't hard to seek out.

To me it sounds like this sounds like it's more about subjecting other players to a rating system, rather than a genuine want for personal access to this information.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

Why would players in casual duty-finder content that you can clear by pressing three buttons ever need metrics or feedback on any of these things? If someone really cares about these things, they already aren't hard to seek out.

To me it sounds like this sounds like it's more about subjecting other players to a rating system, rather than a genuine want for personal access to this information.

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Because, as I mentioned in the thread earlier before the craziness, having a rating log on completed battle content could be a fun way to add longevity to repeating content for more experienced players who enjoy pushing themselves. In short, it wouldn't be for a casual player but more for hardcores and mid cores. Those parts of the playerbase need engagement in general content as well, and this would be a good way to do it.

If we're gonna start throwing all sorts of ideas to improve, might we start by the most basic one first: the intermediate hall of novice. It's baby steps improvement but it's the right direction and a solid footing on further fundamentals that gets glossed over in game (like the infamous running from stacks).

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Because, as I mentioned in the thread earlier before the craziness, having a rating log on completed battle content could be a fun way to add longevity to repeating content for more experienced players who enjoy pushing themselves. In short, it wouldn't be for a casual player but more for hardcores and mid cores. Those parts of the playerbase need engagement in general content as well, and this would be a good way to do it.

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A system like that wouldn't be a bad idea in pre-formed parties, but probably wouldn't be wise to put into DF in place of commendations as the OP recommended. People aiming for higher grades would end up getting frustrated with randoms sandbagging their chances at a new personal best, particularly if they're trying to grind out S ranks in all dungeons. I've seen people get really salty over less in savage and ulti.

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

Because, as I mentioned in the thread earlier before the craziness, having a rating log on completed battle content could be a fun way to add longevity to repeating content for more experienced players who enjoy pushing themselves. In short, it wouldn't be for a casual player but more for hardcores and mid cores. Those parts of the playerbase need engagement in general content as well, and this would be a good way to do it.

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another game started down the wrong path completely by catering more to hardcores and "mid cores"

this would be a good way to ruin this game as well.

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Originally Posted by Kes13a

another game started down the wrong path completely by catering more to hardcores and "mid cores"

this would be a good way to ruin this game as well.

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It's not about catering, it's about giving those players something as well.

Agree with the idea that the thread is a good discussion, even if I disagree with the premise (And feel that it would be way over complicated to implement, re: my earlier question)

How to separate the thread from My Immortal though...

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Originally Posted by Caurcas

It's not about catering, it's about giving those players something as well.

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Extremes, Savage, and Ultimates aren't something for them?

Jesus, what a terrible idea.

Commends can be frustrating at times, i know it very well ... As a healer i have runs where i rescue people out of AoEs, rez dead DPS, keep the party alive while rezzing the tank, etc ... but will get 0 commends, and other times i have runs where i literally do nothing special, or even perform poorly (let people die because i'm zoning out for example), and yet i will get multiple commends.

I don't know what to tell you. That's just how commends work ... It might not be the greatest system but i would surely never trade it for what you described in your OP.