watch a guide, you are not gonna die

The only time I will consider to read or watch a guide is if I am a patch or two+ behind to the content. When entering new content I will inform my party members that I am new. There are usually people kind enough to happily go over the mechanics with me and other new people. That being said, you should not be forced to watch a guide and spoil yourself of content you have yet to experience.

You can twist the thread's title to: Explain a mechanic, you are not going to die.

OP demands respect and courtesy while giving none.

Speaking for normal mode Sure I read guides while I'm in a 15 min dps queue. I do that for my own benefit no one else's. I surely do not expect others to. Hell some folks like to go in blind for the added challenge. Or Maybe they can't stand youboob. What ever the reasons I hardly think of it as some kind of discourtesy.

You talk about the value of time. Well all the time wasted from everyone griping back and forth could have been used to briefly explain the fight and finish the run.

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Originally Posted by Nyvara

OP demands respect and courtesy while giving none.

Speaking for normal mode Sure I read guides while I'm in a 15 min dps queue. I do that for my own benefit no one else's. I surely do not expect others to. Hell some folks like to go in blind for the added challenge. Or Maybe they can't stand youboob. What ever the reasons I hardly think of it as some kind of discourtesy.

You talk about the value of time. Well all the time wasted from everyone griping back and forth could have been used to briefly explain the fight and finish the run.

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The "wasted time" excuse cracks me up every time.
It's a video game. By it's definition it's a waste of time cause we sure as hell ain't doing anything productive.

The only fun I have in instanced content is the challenge of learning the boss fights on the fly; watching videos would effectively remove any incentive I had of ever doing the content in the first place outside of getting any related quests done - I won't do it.

Besides, the newer content tends to have better telegraphed mechanics - some of the older dungeons might have an obscure objective that isn't obvious and might be worth mentioning but otherwise...

I watch the guides, but honestly they do not help me much I have never learned by watching, I learn by doing. :/

I also think watching guides ruins the "new experience" of the content, some.

I'm not really surprised that people defend laziness in this thread.

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Originally Posted by OrangeCrystarium

I'm not really surprised that people defend laziness in this thread.

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okay since you learn like everyone else go outside and catch 5 snakes hands on learning only. I mean if you don't learn how to do it hands on you must be lazy right.

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Hell some folks like to go in blind for the added challenge.

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The issue with this is, being a team orientated game, any challenge you impose on yourself also affects your teammates. Especially as a support role.

There's also a multitude of text guides which tend to remain spoiler free.

I mentioned it before, but if someone jumps into old content blind and ends up being a burden to the group, they'll get treated accordingly. I won't support their laziness.

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Originally Posted by NekoNova

The "wasted time" excuse cracks me up every time.
It's a video game. By it's definition it's a waste of time cause we sure as hell ain't doing anything productive.

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Time is the most valuable resource one can spend. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be efficient, even in a video game.

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The issue with this is, being a team orientated game, any challenge you impose on yourself also affects your teammates. Especially as a support role.

There's also a multitude of text guides which tend to remain spoiler free.

I mentioned it before, but if someone jumps into old content blind and ends up being a burden to the group, they'll get treated accordingly. I won't support their laziness.



Time is the most valuable resource one can spend. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be efficient, even in a video game.

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A not watching a video isnt laziness not everyone learns that way.


B. this is why ppl like you and op are the proplem you have a system 4 your video learning crew only learn to use it create a team in party finder. its cute ppl like u and op say laziness when ur to lazy to create a pf team

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Time is the most valuable resource one can spend. There is nothing wrong with wanting to be efficient, even in a video game.

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If time is this valuable in a videogame genre dedicated to spending it, maybe you should advocate for all non Ex/Savage content to be able to be run with Trusts in 5.0. Or find a genre that's not deliberately designed around spending time.

It's a team oriented game, part of that is giving a quick "watch out for this" to someone. And if they can't, a guide they look up prior to the run and spend 10 to 15 minutes on won't help them succeed.

Barring things like PF groups that lay out their expectations in the description, or Ex/Savage/Ultimate fights (since, generally, if someone's going to do those blind they'll have likeminded players doing it with them).

Dunno, I still find it pretty ridiculous people think others should go watch guides for content that requires the bare minimum effort to explain. And even then, does anyone remember the Mr. Happy Guide for Rabanastre that had people messing up the sword mechanic? No? The one that told them to drop them in the corners, even when DF chooses to stack them middle? Or how about the adds he mentions to separate and kill, instead of bunching up together to AoE them?