Rathalos EX

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Phase 1 is annoying, too.
No telegraphs...except for the big fireball marker which is incredibly slow and has rath dramatically pause at the end of it because 20k HP damage + cleanse is required, and not everyone is good enough to precast.
Oh, and 20k incoming aoe roar damage when your medica hits for 5-6k and the last thing you want to do is stack for a cure 3. But hey, lets make a fight that is perfect for scholar, since all of its heals are instant gcds save physick. It kind of shows what happens when you do alternative content like this, jobs that are balanced well for 8 man stuff tend to have serious advantages/disadvantages for other things.

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Ever raided savage?
Trust me, Rathalos Phase 1 is nothing against Kefka or even GodKefka. I had absolutely no problems healing Phase 1 as a White Mage and it was fun. That is the kind of difficulty I want while still being able to play my healer as a healer.

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If someone does get hit, you get to be the hero that can remove status effect and help to prevent a wipe.

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Depending on where they get kicked and on whether the server wants them to die or not before my dispel takes effect, yeah. It#s still boring though.
Esp since, with this new information, I would truly only spam one skill to fill the down meter.

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Originally Posted by Granyala

Ever raided savage?
Trust me, Rathalos Phase 1 is nothing against Kefka or even GodKefka. I had absolutely no problems healing Phase 1 as a White Mage and it was fun. That is the kind of difficulty I want while still being able to play my healer as a healer.

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Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

Welp, there are a few more things that can be clinch.

1) Only healers can remove dots, even if everyone dodges everything perfectly, the burn pool drops are unavoidable. So at least one person will be getting some burn stacks between down gauges.

2) Not Tested... Rescue might actually be a thing. I didn't think about it yesterday, but if it works in the fight it could be used to pull ppl out of the way of attacks or out of burn pools if they get hit into one.

3) Not Tested... I'm not sure how DoT dmg works in this fight in regards to Downed Status. What I mean, If a DoT is applied while it is flying... Does the dmg increase per tick based on his vulnerability when Downed OR does it continue to tick at the dmg it would have done when applied during flight? If the former, then getting DoTs up once the gauge is 80+ would be a thing to prioritize.

4) Defensive Buffs still work. AST has the most options with Cards, but Protect, Benison, and Sacred Soil still effect incoming dmg as well.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage.

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I am aware of that.
I wrote what I did, because you kept going on about how it is "optimized" for SCH and how WHM would struggle.
Merely wanted to let you know that there are far meaner things, healing classes are able to deal with w/o problem than a rarely occurring 20K roar. :D

My problem with Rathalos is not it's perceived difficulty. It's how tedious and unfun the encounter feels as soon as Phase II hits.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

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I'm casual and I cleared Rathalos Ex on Tuesday.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

Surprisingly, many people don't raid savage. They don't like ex-levels of difficulty. They do like to do crossover events, though. Because it's 1 of the 2 long term content drops we will get for two months. And they had to go and make it an ex trial.Because, its not like the hardcore won't have beaten it in two days already, lets just punish the casuals and make them suffer through it if they wan't stuff, or wait to outgear it.

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You know the normal mode of Rathalos exists right? It's the 8 player version you have to do first to unlock the EX 4 man version.

They have a version for both types of players.

So what exactly are you complaining about?

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Originally Posted by Miste

You know the normal mode of Rathalos exists right? It's the 8 player version you have to do first to unlock the EX 4 man version.

They have a version for both types of players.

So what exactly are you complaining about?

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seems like they want the mount buyable with normal scales.

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Originally Posted by SendohJin

seems like they want the mount buyable with normal scales.

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The casual mode is done the first time you do it, and it took all of one hour to get what i wanted from it. At least the Yokai watch was longer term than that. The only thing left is an ex trial which relies heavily on how good yourself and other people are. Yes, its easier than 8man ex trials, but to compensate we have the three cart rule, which quickly sucks fun out of it since its shared among the party.

I'm going to do it a few more times to clear it, keep the one scale as a memento, then ignore it the same i ignore any ex trial after i clear it. The mount doesn't matter to me, i have 30+ mounts just from playing. I just don't like farming content like hard ex trials and i think a crossover event that involves that sucks.

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

The mount doesn't matter to me, i have 30+ mounts just from playing. I just don't like farming content like hard ex trials and i think a crossover event that involves that sucks.

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if the mount doesn't matter to you then you don't have to farm the EX trial. now i'm also confused on what you think sucks. you want more to farm from the normal trial that's not the mount?

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Originally Posted by RiyahArp

The casual mode is done the first time you do it, and it took all of one hour to get what i wanted from it. At least the Yokai watch was longer term than that. The only thing left is an ex trial which relies heavily on how good yourself and other people are. Yes, its easier than 8man ex trials, but to compensate we have the three cart rule, which quickly sucks fun out of it since its shared among the party.

I'm going to do it a few more times ot clear it, keep the one scale as a memento, then ignore it the same i ignore any ex trial after i clear it. The mount doesn't matter to me, i have 30+ mounts just from playing. I just don't like farming content like ex trials and i think a crossover event that involves that sucks.

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So your REAL complaint is lack of content for yourself.

Why not just say that instead of making up that nonsense about "punishing casuals" just because the EX version exists?

If you don't like and/or don't do all content available then there will be shortages sometimes. It's just how it is if you don't branch out to everything the game offers or if you don't like farming or grinding. Which I don't blame you if you don't like farming or grinding a lot, some people just don't.