We need another Housing purge

I use the extra plots for gardening, if SE made instance personal green houses I would not have much need for plots. My plots are pretty bare bone and I do get a some flank for it in game nothing major, but these are the lengths I have to go through to enjoy the parts of the game I enjoy. Which is crafting and making Gil. Granted the airships are nice but if they made them separate from housing I am sure the demand for housing would go down.

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Originally Posted by OliverB

Having multiple service accounts makes it a lot easier to manage multiple houses because you don’t have to log out as much in order to get stuff done. 15$/month isnt much for the convenience if you want to look into that.

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I might look into that before the next expansion drops if nothing changes. I do have some older accounts sitting around that I used for the gold feathers to get the mounts and RAF mount. I could put them to some good use.

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Originally Posted by Awha

Damn 16!? Lol I can barely keep up with my 5 plots.

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Having multiple service accounts makes it a lot easier to manage multiple houses because you don’t have to log out as much in order to get stuff done. 15$/month isnt much for the convenience if you want to look into that.

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Originally Posted by Awha

I use the extra plots for gardening, if SE made instance personal green houses I would not have much need for plots.

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Greenhouses sounds like a pretty cool idea, not going to lie about that. It would be great to garden in one area and not be tied down to deluxe garden plots or single pots within a house. Imagine being able to have multiple pots of plants on a shelf in a greenhouse or something near your home...almost like Harvest Moon.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

It feels like...you've been clamoring for attention over this. Just by skimming through what's been said up to this point, when you made your first post, nobody really bothered to say anything to you - so then you made another post to attract attention of an issue that does irritate a lot of players. You don't see the issue with it, but a lot of people do.

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I do not know how I missed that. I mean ya I got everyone including me ignored it. For me, I just assumed it could someone pretending but it really wasn't important to me. I can def see your point and looks like they succeeded, more so by posting on all 3 accounts here and once here, used the 2 others to cheer themselves on.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

It feels like...you've been clamoring for attention over this. Just by skimming through what's been said up to this point, when you made your first post, nobody really bothered to say anything to you - so then you made another post to attract attention of an issue that does irritate a lot of players. You don't see the issue with it, but a lot of people do.

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There had been a screenshot posted very early in this thread that showed a particular housing ward mostly taken up by a specific FC. OliverB then came in saying they were the owner and it blew up from there. Mods have been active in this thread and several posts have been removed. Just some clarification.

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Originally Posted by Skivvy

Not true at all. SE didn't have to create housing as a finite source. Instanced housing is a thing in many games, and could work in XIV as well.

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Next to instanced housing, they could have also made instanced apartments which the feature to buy more and more rooms so that you can have as much housing space as you want. Or they could have given private housing the feature to buy rooms..and also give all the feature to buy more than one room. So if you are a small FC or own a small privat house you can just get more rooms by buying more thus you also have a gil sink.

In the end they put out lots of rewards and crafting items for housing but there is still not enough demand for everyone owning a house..

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Originally Posted by Alleo

Next to instanced housing, they could have also made instanced apartments which the feature to buy more and more rooms so that you can have as much housing space as you want. Or they could have given private housing the feature to buy rooms..and also give all the feature to buy more than one room. So if you are a small FC or own a small privat house you can just get more rooms by buying more thus you also have a gil sink.
In the end they put out lots of rewards and crafting items for housing but there is still not enough demand for everyone owning a house..

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Yup, they could do a lot of things to minimize the want to get more then one house. I guess this is the result of trying to charge people as much as possible for "extra items and services" while not putting money back in the game. To add on this and someone else said, You could also pay more gil to expand how much you can grow, pay more for how many grade III buffs you can charge at once but no it seems they go out of their way to be as anti-consumer as possible with housing. What is shocking to me in that regard some people still go out of their way to try defend and make excuses for SE despite how bad housing is.

But hey if they manage to trick people in paying 30 or 45 dollars a month for 2/3 subs, they did a good job to maximize profits right? that is all that matters right? How much money you make, not how you treat your customers.

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Originally Posted by Awha

I use the extra plots for gardening, if SE made instance personal green houses I would not have much need for plots.

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This is something I've been in favor of for months. If SE made the following, I think there'd be less friction over housing:
- instanced greenhouses, as mentioned above, accessible from apartments and fc rooms as well as houses
- instanced FC barracks where you can place aetherial wheels and control airships

That's it, I think just those additions would fix a lot of things. People could have multiple FCs for airships and gardeners could expand their operations without hindering other players. Houses become a luxury item, bragging rights and decoration only. This would probably free up a few plots, at least.

Also, I hope when they add the ability for alts to use the main's personal house, they also give them the ability to make their own room, like in FC houses. That would be a nice touch.

Does everyone realize that we have went from 450,540,720,1440,2160,2880 to now 4320 plots? What else do you want? It’s not hard to get a house. In facts it’s almost too easy now. Anyone who doesn’t have a house and complains about either 1) lacks intelligence (sorry but it’s true) 2) doesn’t know how 3) doesn’t have gil or 4) is being way to picky about what plot they want.

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Originally Posted by Sigma-Astra

Personally, I think you're missing the main point as to what people are angry with. It has less to do with (for some people) about the means in which you acquired said plots and more or less why you feel or think that you even need 16 FC houses to begin with. I mean, if you want to be chained and bogged down to the game on multiple characters and service accounts, that's on you. 3-5+ homes would seem like a chore to me, and 16+ is like a second full-time job.

Owning 16 FC houses doesn't make you look any smarter or superior than the average player, it just makes some of us that own a FC house and personal home tilt our heads in confusion like "....why do that to yourself...?" kind of thing.

/shrugs

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Managing a dozen FC’s is easy. You make it seem impossible but it’s very very easy. It’s just like retainers really in essence of airships and subs. If people spent the energy they do with anger and jealousy towards getting a house this would be a moot point. It’s sooooooo easy to get a house. Just click and buy. They are there. Check auto demo timers hourly: I just saw a mansion pop the other day. Tons of mediums pop weekly. It’s more of a reflection on people’s lack of effort rather than pointing at someone as a scapegoat. To everyone complaining about housing I ask you this question : how bad do you actually want a house? More people actually like complaining about not having one than they care about what it takes to get one. Anyone I know that truly wants a house has one. Square isn’t going to gift you one.