3.3 crafting thread

Can someone work out the best rotation using only the 180 full set (including both left and right side plus tools being only the non-materia melded 180's), add into the calculations being a specialist. I want to work out if SE's standard (what once was red scrip) full set is good enough to even be able to craft the 3* ilvl190/195 pieces and how close to 100% HQ they can get. I don't need to know that melded gear is a better option as I already know that, I am just curious what the best you can achieve with SE's previous 180 full set in 3* crafting as a specialist.

With full token i180 across the board, you need Heavensegg Soup HQ to hit the craft and control requirements for the i190 pieces. And you will have a much smaller pool of CP to work with. With full HQ mats and a little luck you can do it, but it will be very risky. I would at least take those token i180s and turn a few into i200 augmented versions.

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Originally Posted by Espritduo

With full token i180 across the board, you need Heavensegg Soup HQ to hit the craft and control requirements for the i190 pieces. And you will have a much smaller pool of CP to work with. With full HQ mats and a little luck you can do it, but it will be very risky. I would at least take those token i180s and turn a few into i200 augmented versions.

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To expand on this some:

Stats with Heavensegg and both FC buffs will be: 891 Craftsmanship, 848 control, and 382 CP. The main problem here is the CP gimping due to the need to use Heavensegg to make the stat requirement. You could probably modify Rath's a bit, but you won't be able to use MMII, so that limits you a bit.

http://imgur.com/dJDE3GD.png

You will need >5000 starting quality to hit 100% HQ if everything goes perfectly. I'm just not sure it is worth the risk.

Whistle, nymeias, and using good procs efficiently would help tremendously for someone with low CP.

there is really no point to use i180 accessiores tho
they got outclassed by a single CP melded i140 / i150
so limited yourself to full i180 really doesn't make any sense

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Originally Posted by FoxyAreku

Whistle, nymeias, and using good procs efficiently would help tremendously for someone with low CP.

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This is probably true. I honestly haven't bothered with specialist skills since I hit 60 on all...

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Originally Posted by AishaNymph

there is really no point to use i180 accessiores tho
they got outclassed by a single CP melded i140 / i150
so limited yourself to full i180 really doesn't make any sense

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That's true, and also the i170 accessories should be extremely cheap to make now. Favor items have dropped to < 2000 gil per item on my server, and we are pretty low population.

I have my blacksmith to alomost 60, the rest are 50s what should I do next for my blacksmith?

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Originally Posted by Blankstar

you won't be able to use MMII, so that limits you a bit.

http://imgur.com/dJDE3GD.png

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You're only saving 30 durability with your WNII...

Low CP isn't that bad, you just can't use a rigid rotation that might as well be a macro. I've been doing 2-3 stars since they came out with ~419 CP, the stuff is easy.

what bothers me the most about 3.3 is that being a high end crafter doesn't mean anything , you look at someone with high end raid gear and you know they worked real hard to earn it , but you see a crafter with best gear in game , it just means you had couple of million gills , there is no challenge anymore . and i wonder how long this is going to keep on going , make gear > meld > make new gear > meld > make new gear > meld .

i think what would be good is a crafting relic gear that can be upgraded over time or just using the current gear + some crafted tokens to get a higher version of it