the need for 3rd tank class

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Originally Posted by Wulfyn

I would tank except for:
1. I don't like elitists and other rude players.
2. I don't like rushing through crap.

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Then don't rush through stuff. The tank sets the pace of the dungeon run, and with how long it takes to replace a tank, smart players are not going to argue with you. The dumb ones will kick you from the group, at which point you can get an insta-queue into another group while they sit in the dungeon for 45 minutes waiting for a new tank to pop up.

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Originally Posted by Duelle

The dumb ones will kick you from the group, at which point you can get an insta-queue into another group while they sit in the dungeon for 45 minutes waiting for a new tank to pop up.

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And you can report them for harassment if you're the vindictive sort. ;)

Though GW2 isn't what I'd hoped (CoX came the closest to role/group comp Nirvana), one thing I do appreciate is that even my Mesmer feels tough as nails and I can do things with her I can't do with a Guardian. I'm good at playing a Mesmer and I am better at everything as a Mez.

But when I came to this game, I decided to forego tanking, a role I love to death, in favor of my 2nd favorite role. I'm tired of being yelled at, tired of being blamed, tired of the stress of having to know every pull and every map and every special move and every spot I can stand in, tired of DPS thinking they know my job well enough to tell me how to do it and then acting like the whole thing worked because they're 'epic.' I'm tired of being a doormat.

Anyway, in spite of my rambling about the job, I still support another tank class.

/rantoff

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Originally Posted by Currant

Anyway, in spite of my rambling about the job, I still support another tank class.

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What would a new tank class change to the situation you describe? The same people would still yell at you, maybe even more because they don't understand the class.

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Originally Posted by Ericyu

If no one wants to tank with a PLD or WAR. What makes you think a 3rd tanking class will fix this? You need to fix the current problem now and make them fun to play before you start adding more tank classes and still yield the same results. Start at the core,add some flashy animations, make them look inticing to play, people like seeing big numbers so make it happen even if you have the rebalance all the dungeons. That's better than having over 75% of your playerbase sitting in rev toll starring at their party finder/duty window hoping a tank pop up for hours.

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This is a FF game, people get into the Jobs themselves as much if not more than the role. PLD and WAR are a little bland as far as Jobs go. Something more exotic may draw in more players. For instance SAM as a tank class (Katana based would obviously be most popular) would probably draw in a lot of tanks that may not otherwise do it. Or maybe a Soldier (SLD) Job with Cloud's greatsword as a relic?

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Originally Posted by muwa

What would a new tank class change to the situation you describe?

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That stupid post was originally 3x as long and I had to trim it down and got frustrated, so I apologize. At any rate, I was only pointing out that I agree with the general consensus that it's the role more than the class but that I do think additional classes will still help to pull people into trying the role. Even for me, sometimes the flavor dictates how interested I am and if I can't find a tank class I like, I don't do it much. So while a new class won't solve the problem, it could very well help mitigate it inasmuch as a class can. Aside from totally overhauling mechanics, what else can the designers really do?

And in GW2, I didn't want to tank with the classes people typically used for the job. Of course, tanking there is...special...but the point is that sometimes style and approach can be an acceptable medication, even if the malady persists.