Titan Extreme is NOT Fun

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Originally Posted by ZeroRains

duty finder/pugs

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Are you like a masochist or something?

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Originally Posted by ZeroRains

http://i.imgur.com/dsKRbkn.jpg?1
Yes, I clear it with my friends. Not a solo effort. I was more in line speaking titan with duty finder/pugs, not endgame t5 groups.

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then clear titan with ur friends as well?

or try to PUG T5 and tell me how it goes

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Originally Posted by Mitsukai123

Are you like a masochist or something?

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It's sad to think that the only puggable content for progression is CT. Even Coil is turning undoable, I don't know what the hell is going on with people in this game where groups don't last more than 15 minutes.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

The only qualm I have about Titan Extreme so far is that dodging plumes seems to be a gamble for me - at least with stacking tactics. Moving by the time I see the plume on my screen sometimes is too late already, no matter how quickly I react. Having to stand still in place with everyone else prevents me from moving pre-emptively, so latency/lag cause me to get hit frequently. I didn't make it to the heart phase yet, but if the plumes were a tiny bit easier to dodge - either smaller, or on a slightly longer timer - I'd be happy enough.

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I'd recommend battle ping if that's the case. My group does it completely by stacking and moves on reaction - no one gets hit except if they're lagging.

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Originally Posted by ROOTFayth

then clear titan with ur friends as well?

or try to PUG T5 and tell me how it goes

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I have pugged t5. and my clear on titan was pugged. Honestly, people trying to make excuses to not state the fact titan is a broken boring mind frustrating fight that is artificially difficult. Please don't bring my experiences to try to prove "titan is wonderful and craps rainbows of loot and fun for all!" Give me a break

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Originally Posted by EvokerKeii

Here's a great industry-eye view of challenging vs punishing content.
http://youtu.be/ea6UuRTjkKs
Or more specifically, the exact point we're talking about with Titan.
http://youtu.be/ea6UuRTjkKs?t=2m10s

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I'm going to quote your post again (like Rochetm).
Can't be propagated enough.

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Originally Posted by EvokerKeii

Or more specifically, the exact point we're talking about with Titan.

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Titan's knockbacks are telegraphed and it's immediately clear what to do to avoid them. Furthermore, knockbacks are an established part of the game and players have been introduced to them well before Titan. I don't think you actually understood the point of the video you linked, I think you're just trying to say "this content is too hard for me, therefor it's 'punishing' instead of 'difficult' and here's this video that talks about that so I'm going to link it and insist that it applies to this scenario."

It's fun aside from the part that yaknow, plumes are a pain in the ass with their slow servers...

How is it them? well it's simple, I always lag enough for it to make it really annoyingly hard to dodge plumes when it's rush hour for FFXIV, so... my ping is reliable always the same (high for it to make it a combination with their server lag actually matter).

So yeah, dodging is fun as long as it's fair. Sadly, for now it is not, atleast until more people quit again and we can have not so crowded servers.

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Originally Posted by Eriatarka12

I'd recommend battle ping if that's the case. My group does it completely by stacking and moves on reaction - no one gets hit except if they're lagging.

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Problem appears when the lag is nonstop, I can still dodge em every time, but I need to sprint for them and pray when sprint is down that I don't lag too much, also while still going out of my way to dodge while lagging.

If your ping is that bad you might just have to resign yourself as unable to do it due to being outside the client-side requirements, its sad but really groups can't carry inconsistent plume dodgers.

I just did it with an amazing pug, with this feeling of achievement I wouldn't want it any other way.