Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

[QUOTE=Calling it something different in real life has a lot of problems that dont exist in video games. As we already have different gods and you dont see Christians going "WTH!!! there is only ONE not TWELVE!". There is a suspension of morals* that I think some would be absolutely fine with a different name and lore basis. *(beliefs? rules? not saying we lose all morals lol but obviously dont kill people goes out the window)

Its pretty simple if you think about it in the real world we do have many different types of religions/beliefs out there even new ones created during our lifetime not just Christians. When you have that many different types of beliefs out there it bound to stir the pot of putting one belief against another each side believing there is the correct one. A mmo cannot escape this being a virtual world you’re not getting away from the human factor that the player is still tied to the real world that includes those beliefs and it will bleed into the game period. I could give plenty of examples but everyone lives in this world were belief and ideas are always at odd against us.

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Originally Posted by odintius

=Calling it something different in real life has a lot of problems that dont exist in video games. As we already have different gods and you dont see Christians going "WTH!!! there is only ONE not TWELVE!". There is a suspension of morals* that I think some would be absolutely fine with a different name and lore basis. *(beliefs? rules? not saying we lose all morals lol but obviously dont kill people goes out the window)

Its pretty simple if you think about it in the real world we do have many different types of religions/beliefs out there even new ones created during our lifetime not just Christians. When you have that many different types of beliefs out there it bound to stir the pot of putting one belief against another each side believing there is the correct one. A mmo cannot escape this being a virtual world you’re not getting away from the human factor that the player is still tied to the real world that includes those beliefs and it will bleed into the game period. I could give plenty of examples but everyone lives in this world were belief and ideas are always at odd against us.

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So when does this become Final Liberty XIV where we must run everything by the moral cockles of every American association with the word "Family" in it? Before or after Shiva gets her approval from the Hindu religious organizations? Or would it be before the soccer moms review our emotes again to make sure everyone's legs are together?

I understand making the game accessible is important, SE must've been pleased with the PEGI 12 rating. But "beliefs and ideas" are not people. Applying the gender restriction to the ceremony will not only discriminate the population, it will also hit relationships that are not even of the same sex.

And for what? To make certain all the lalafel and miqo'te call girls in Ul'dah are for men only? You think they'll be satisfied with that?

Kallera, fix the quote tags please >.< I know it's not your fault because the post you're quoting is missing a ] lol

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Originally Posted by Kallera

So when does this become Final Liberty XIV where we must run everything by the moral cockles of every American association with the word "Family" in it? Before or after Shiva gets her approval from the Hindu religious organizations? Or would it be before the soccer moms review our emotes again to make sure everyone's legs are together?

I understand making the game accessible is important, SE must've been pleased with the PEGI 12 rating. But "beliefs and ideas" are not people. Applying the gender restriction to the ceremony will not only discriminate the population, it will also hit relationships that are not even of the same sex.

And for what? To make certain all the lalafel and miqo'te call girls in Ul'dah are for men only? You think they'll be satisfied with that?

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Why because you and others could not accept that maybe the company decision was based on marriage being a man and women? Then SE have asked for feed back from the gaming community and expect it to be just your view on it and no one else's? That how the world works hun so get use to it at the end of the night it not shiva or hindu logging off at night it you with you own views that maybe the company doesn't share 100% with.

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Originally Posted by odintius

Why because you and others could not accept that maybe the company decision was based on marriage being a man and women? Then SE have asked for feed back from the gaming community and expect it to be just your view on it and no one else's? That how the world works hun so get use to it at the end of the night it not shiva or hindu logging off at night it you with you own views that maybe the company doesn't share 100% with.

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Perhaps you should take some of your own advice and consider that maybe they asked for feedback because they actually want it. You don't know, maybe they felt it was best to see what the community had to say before making a final decision. Perhaps SE and Yoshida are willing to take the brunt of the negative reaction if the players truly want it.

You don't know, perhaps their values are more aligned with being cautious and simply doing what the fans want in this regard. That is another, opposite point of view you should be willing to see as well.

In truth no one here knows what they really want, what their values are or what they're going to do. All we know is that, for whatever reason, they asked for feedback.

Duh read the bold maybe if they add it they add it

Oh I have stated many times already that I could care less if they add it or not I just saying I will respect the company decision of how they implement something that others seem not able to do. So please read the other post of mine beside hitting the last page button and deem that my stance on the whole subject jeez.

I have nothing against weddings in game or same gender weddings, still I think it should be a community created event.

Community can do this without the help of the game dev.

Just have that nice church, throw in a player crafted costumes that looks like wedding outfits, and let the players do the rest.

actually i took part in a community based wedding in FFXI in front of the big waterfall in Lufaise Meadows and it was great.
the couple exchanged self crafted rings with signature.
i think it was better than the official procedure because it was very personal. organized by friends for friends.

This shouldn't have been an issue.

If the answer to whether or not same gender unions would be an option was yes there would have maybe been a few eyebrow raising posts from a few players, but it would have died down, and probably quickly since most wouldn't of cared.

Now that the answer is no, there will constantly be threads about it until it is fixed.

Once it is fixed ... just watch the threads die, and focus shift back to the game.

Fix it ;p

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Originally Posted by RexValentino

This shouldn't have been an issue.

If the answer to whether or not same gender unions would be an option was yes there would have maybe been a few eyebrow raising posts from a few players, but it would have died down, and probably quickly since most wouldn't of cared.

Now that the answer is no, there will constantly be threads about it until it is fixed.

Once it is fixed ... just watch the threads die, and focus shift back to the game.

Fix it ;p

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sweet if thats all it takes I am going to make complaints about everything till they all get fixed. I am going to start with being italian. All the avatars look to northern european, I wont play till there are some italian looking avatars. Until there are I am being discriminated against and I want it!!one1! And why cant i choose my avatars political affiliation! come on people if we dont make threads on all of this how will they get changed! Screw the game I want my politics! It IS the game now!