Marriage feedback [inofficial Poll]

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Its sad that video games have become too much like real life...very, very sad. They are no longer an escape from the grind of life, just another political vehicle for people to push their views, regardless of subject or stance.

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Everything has meaning, the difference is you either don't notice it because it was embedded too subtly or it is a part of a stream you naturally accept and don't consider it. ("Well yeah what about X game, there is no meaning its just to kill people" - there is meaning in that as well.)

The ability at which video games can confer meaning has evolved but they have always told stories, just like books.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

Its sad that video games have become too much like real life...very, very sad. They are no longer an escape from the grind of life, just another political vehicle for people to push their views, regardless of subject or stance.

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your right bro why are people useing the one thing we use to get away from the troubles of the world to throw us back into it, someone must draw that line in the sand or fact and fantasy will become one and the same and thats where the trouble starts...

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Originally Posted by Kallera

While I'm fine with waiting for a response from the dev team. I would like to mention this. Intentionally rude postings in an attempt to close this thread will not invalidate the findings of the poll, and will only result in more threads being created on this issue.


You are not doing the moderators a service. And you will make whatever side you are on look bad.

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An unofficial poll on the first page of these thread should all that matter it isn't what invalids for the yes/no vote its the <insert page it begins> to the 137th were its just drama that really doesn't serve much of a purpose to that poll you voted for.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

Everything has meaning, the difference is you either don't notice it because it was embedded too subtly or it is a part of a stream you naturally accept and don't consider it. ("Well yeah what about X game, there is no meaning its just to kill people" - there is meaning in that as well.)

The ability at which video games can confer meaning has evolved but they have always told stories, just like books.

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they often told stories that only loosely resembled real life, while portraying it in a manor otherwise unknowable in reality. Now they are just a mirror directly reflecting every bias, agenda and political engine we are already bombarded with on a daily basis. It is no longer subtle, Its just another day on CNN.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

they often told stories that only loosely resembled real life, while portraying it in a manor otherwise unknowable in reality. Now they are just a mirror directly reflecting every bias, agenda and political engine we are already bombarded with on a daily basis. It is no longer subtle, Its just another day on CNN.

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The reason why it was suggested to change the name of the ritual is because of it needing to be loosely based on real life rather then a direct connection. I am for homosexuals having marriage in real life as well but I understand people dont want to think about rights - so that's why the simple "hush hush" fix is to just change the whole history of it by making a new one.




Games have stepped on peoples toes in the past as well - its just not fun when its stepping on your toes (those against the rights of the homosexual community).

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Originally Posted by Azurus

they often told stories that only loosely resembled real life, while portraying it in a manor otherwise unknowable in reality. Now they are just a mirror directly reflecting every bias, agenda and political engine we are already bombarded with on a daily basis. It is no longer subtle, Its just another day on CNN.

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You can only make so many remakes of Arkanoid.

But seriously, Come to think of it, why the interest in a mmo if you want to play totally devoid of real life issue and societies? The main things you interact with are other real life people. The developers need a realistic world to convey substance, and give it meaning to the player. This is called world building. And in the context of this topic, real life people are being separated a social event by a choice on the character creation screen. This is meaningful to us because while our characters are based on Eorzea. Many do not separate their character interactions with our experiences as the player, the is little "roleplaying" done or needed in most mmorpgs.

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Originally Posted by Shougun

The reason why it was suggested to change the name of the ritual is because of it needing to be loosely based on real life rather then a direct connection. I am for homosexuals having marriage in real life as well but I understand people dont want to think about rights - so that's why the simple "hush hush" fix is to just change the whole history of it by making a new one.

Games have stepped on peoples toes in the past as well - its just not fun when its stepping on your toes (those against the rights of the homosexual community).

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If you read my posts like 1000 pages back you'll see that I am also in favor of them having the right in rl, though in game right now I think SE handled it so poorly that now it is just a socio-political slug fest and I wish they had just scrapped the entire idea to save the game this kind of exposure. I wish game play related threads reached this kind of page number though i really do, would make the forums more fun to read. But anyway if they decide to call it something different will that please both sides? For some reason I don't think it will. Its been tried in real life already after all. (goes back to exactly what I said about being a mirror anymore)

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Originally Posted by Azurus

If you read my posts like 1000 pages back you'll see that I am also in favor of them having the right in rl, though in game right now I think SE handled it so poorly that now it is just a socio-political slug fest and I wish they had just scrapped the entire idea to save the game this kind of exposure. I wish game play related threads reached this kind of page number though i really do, would make the forums more fun to read. But anyway if they decide to call it something different will that please both sides? For some reason I don't think it will. Its been tried in real life already after all. (goes back to exactly what I said about being a mirror anymore)

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I think they should have just released it allowing same sex by not even making the system check sex. Be like bethesda and Skyrim who didn't even mention it until someone brought it up on a twitter account and the guy was like yeah w.e not a big deal its there.

Calling it something different in real life has a lot of problems that dont exist in video games. As we already have different gods and you dont see Christians going "WTH!!! there is only ONE not TWELVE!". There is a suspension of morals* that I think some would be absolutely fine with a different name and lore basis. *(beliefs? rules? not saying we lose all morals lol but obviously dont kill people goes out the window).

Using real world names draws deeper correlations and may destroy the suspensions (like calling a god Jesus would probably be a no no lol :P)

I dont think using a different name will appease all but good luck appeasing everyone in the first place lol.

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Originally Posted by Azurus

they often told stories that only loosely resembled real life, while portraying it in a manor otherwise unknowable in reality. Now they are just a mirror directly reflecting every bias, agenda and political engine we are already bombarded with on a daily basis. It is no longer subtle, Its just another day on CNN.

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This guy is the voice of reason , simple and neutral . Biased people wont accept it was a bad idea to add this sometime later to the game all together , most people pushing for this have no interest in it directly they only happen to be a friend of gay person so the vote doubles. this will be drama if they implement it and drama if they don't and the game does not need that at all

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Originally Posted by Warlock

This guy is the voice of reason , simple and neutral . Biased people wont accept it was a bad idea to add this sometime later to the game all together , most people pushing for this have no interest in it directly they only happen to be a friend of gay person so the vote doubles. this will be drama if they implement it and drama if they don't and the game does not need that at all

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I don't know about everyone else, but I'm not pushing some political agenda or anything like that. I just want this game feature to be accessible by all players, regardless of character gender. That's it. Nothing more, nothing less.

Honestly, even if they do implement it a vast majority of any "drama" that will occur will happen immediately once this decision is made/implemented. Down the road I hardly think anyone will make a big deal out of it. At most they'll likely hear of it in passing. Just like every other "controversial" game decision that's made it'll be a huge deal for a week at most and then it'll fade away.

As I've said, and I'm sure I'm not the only one, once they announce a final decision I'll respect that. They have made a decision but asked for feedback so it's not what I'd call final. Once that happens though, I'll leave it at that.