What things annoy you?

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

That is pretty common among many mmo communities unfortunately. Indeed it is annoying and don't be the one that actually loves the game, you will get destroyed.

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People can say what they want. Lol i love this game and want SE get more praise for the awesome work they do. They deserve it.

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Originally Posted by Billythepancake

Just because people enjoy something does not make that something immune to criticism. In fact, it can be said that criticizing comes out of a place of love. Everyone wants the game to succeed,and every criticism comes from people wanting it to be the best it can be.

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True, we all want it gets better but to me it is awesome right now too. Sometimes though, people want stuff change or jobs and it doesn't need to change. I wish people would appreciate more what they have and not what they could have. SE never disappointed me.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

SE never disappointed me.

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Give it some time, I'm sure they will eventually

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

True, we all want it gets better but to me it is awesome right now too. Sometimes though, people want stuff change or jobs and it doesn't need to change. I wish people would appreciate more what they have and not what they could have. SE never disappointed me.

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That's great for you, but I've felt a ton of disappointment for this expansion so far. They only took away from my main class, and the very little, and I do mean very little, they gave back was not worth it.

These new implementations by SE to force Steam users to use Steam to launch the game annoys me, as the intended target demographic is completely unaffected through a simple workaround that was released on reddit within three hours of the patch going live, but what annoys me more is the arbitrary exclusivity of Steam from the rest of the platforms this is available on in the first place.

That Steam stuff is likely being done at Steam’s insistence and not SE’s...

Most stuff people do in this game.

I suffer from chronical annoyance.

But hey i tend to look past it and be helpful nonetheless. Maybe someday it will help my chronical annoyance.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

The people in this forums conplaining and never seem happy with anything, even if ffxiv is the best mmo and SE give us the best.

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There's plenty in this game that deserves the criticism it gets and needs fixing (e.g., the Housing system, healer gameplay, balance between certain DPS jobs, balance within certain DPS roles). This game has its flaws, and isn't immune to criticism.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

There's plenty in this game that deserves the criticism it gets and needs fixing (e.g., the Housing system, healer gameplay, balance between certain DPS jobs, balance within certain DPS roles). This game has its flaws, and isn't immune to criticism.

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I think I understand where Kada is coming from. I totally agree with you but some criticism comes across as petty at times in here.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Give it some time, I'm sure they will eventually

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You should watch the videos a realm reborn on youtube and see how far they went and the time and passion they put into ffxiv. I really appreciate what they do.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

You should watch the videos a realm reborn on youtube and see how far they went and the time and passion they put into ffxiv. I really appreciate what they do.

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Just because you appreciate what they do doesn't mean that they are immune to criticism. How else can they get even better?

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Originally Posted by Schan

Just because you appreciate what they do doesn't mean that they are immune to criticism. How else can they get even better?

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You can criticism, but there are petty and not necessary criticism.

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Originally Posted by SenorPatty

Give it some time, I'm sure they will eventually

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I meant the fall and rise of ffxiv on youtube.
https://youtu.be/kP02ykXXKog

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

The people in this forums conplaining and never seem happy with anything, even if ffxiv is the best mmo and SE give us the best.

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It's still a product we pay money for. It's not like they're doing something for free and everyone it picking it apart ^^ Of course devs often put their heart into their project, but being a dev myself I know all the restrictions, be it budgets, deadlines etc. You can never make a product as amazing as you would like to, it's usally "do it fast and ship asap". Only by making criticism heard can we get SE suits to eventually put more ressources into fixing certain things that need fixing. It's not the devs that are making the final decisions, and it's not the devs people are criticising.

You people did very well at proving my point.

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Originally Posted by Rasikko

That is pretty common among many mmo communities unfortunately. Indeed it is annoying and don't be the one that actually loves the game, you will get destroyed.

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Who says people criticising the game can't also love it? I love this game, but I also think it has some flaws, and some problems that really should be fixed. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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Originally Posted by KadaRemnant

You should watch the videos a realm reborn on youtube and see how far they went and the time and passion they put into ffxiv. I really appreciate what they do.

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I’ve watched the Fall and Rise series several times, as well as other videos comparing 1.0 to 2.0 and so on. I’ve played this game since HW. While the developers have come a long way, there is still plenty they can do to make the game even better. Any criticism that I offer comes from a desire of wanting the game to thrive—not from pettiness. However, I cannot speak for others with this regard.

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Originally Posted by Avidria

Who says people criticising the game can't also love it? I love this game, but I also think it has some flaws, and some problems that really should be fixed. They aren't mutually exclusive.

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Basically, this.

People that stand at the boss body waiting for loot to drop.

I wonder if certain players posting here are even aware that a lot of changes, QoL and content added that they enjoy was due to the community giving feedback and/or complaining about something. In fact, the whole 1.0 to ARR transition come to mind.

Recently been playing Dancer as it's my final job to get to 80 and I despise using Standard Step in any overworld field content.

I've been doing sidequests to get more exp, and I have to be extremely careful to use it far away from other mobs or else it calls in all of the boys and I basically get killed while hiding behind curing waltz and shield samba.

I do love it for mob pulls though in dungeons.

The unskippable MSQ!

Have to login at Steam just to enter FFXIV.

Having enough gil, not able to buy a personal house

• Still cannot stack maps, why is this still a thing when we could stack other items...
• MSQ Roulette, yes i understand why no skip cs was implemented but for god's sake why must the text stay on screen for so long before moving on. I avoid at all costs unless friends want to run it then i suffer, lol

People who wait out the timer on loot rolls. There's always one, especially in Ivalice raids, it seems.

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Originally Posted by RoyalBeef

It's still a product we pay money for. It's not like they're doing something for free and everyone it picking it apart ^^ Of course devs often put their heart into their project, but being a dev myself I know all the restrictions, be it budgets, deadlines etc. You can never make a product as amazing as you would like to, it's usally "do it fast and ship asap". Only by making criticism heard can we get SE suits to eventually put more ressources into fixing certain things that need fixing. It's not the devs that are making the final decisions, and it's not the devs people are criticising.

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Someone made a thread about being tired of walking and want chocobos in cities and i think they are serious.. Lol It's those kind of unecessary criticism i was saying. People can be so lazy.

Bur i agree with you. Criticism is good to make the game even better.

New list:

1. WoW refugees trying to make FF14 into WoW when the main reason they are here is because everything WoW has are failure to begin with
2. Gator farmers complains about everything of Frontline because they want to farm before 5.1

1: Rapid, massive undercutting. Not undercutting in general, that's just how things work. But when an Item is consistently 300k, so I put one up for that, then come back less than an hour later to find that two or three people have flooded the MB with entries for 50k, yeah, that's annoying.

2: People who sell items for less than the vendor cost. For crying out loud just vendor it!

3: The localization team's insistence on translating 'world' and 'planet' as 'star.' It's Not A Star!!! This one just gets under my skin hard for some reason, it's like ten thousand nails on ten thousand chalkboards every time they do it.

4: The Mudman. 'Nuff said.

1. Healers who don't at least maintain a dot during fights - especially at lower levels. I'm not the kind of player who will shame people for preferring to heal over DPS but please at the very least maintain the insta-cast dot all healers have. I don't think that's too much to ask.

2. Insta-pulls in 24-man content, before people even have the chance to set up or get to the arena. I get it, the content is easy, but it gives me an anxiety spike every time the tank sprints ahead to pull before even 3/4ths of the raid is in the room. It's almost always going to result in wipes and I wish people would at least stop for five seconds to let people get ready.

3. People who don't pull their weight in the 24-man version of Frontlines that you get when not enough people are available in the queue. I get it, you queue'd for what you thought was an easy duty and now you actually need to follow the group and pay attention. But, you know, please actually follow the group? Don't pout because you can't slack off anymore.

4. The fact that when mounts drop in Extreme content the Desire Sensor /always/ seems to give it to the person who died 5x. It's to the point that I just expect the carry to get the mount and then immediately drop the party.

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Originally Posted by Ransom

3: The localization team's insistence on translating 'world' and 'planet' as 'star.' It's Not A Star!!! This one just gets under my skin hard for some reason, it's like ten thousand nails on ten thousand chalkboards every time they do it.

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It's an outdated usage, but "star" can mean any large celestial body. The use of it in this game isn't technically incorrect, just imprecise.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

It's an outdated usage, but "star" can mean any large celestial body. The use of it in this game isn't technically incorrect, just imprecise.

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You're definetely correct, but it's also a quirk of localizing Japanese into English where translating a word from Japanese has no direct English equivelant (bare in mind I dropped out of my Japanese language course so my knowledge on this subject is very, very rudimentary so if anyone is more knowledgable on this subject and can add or clarify things please by all means do so!), but from what I understand the Japanese use the same word to mean both a planet and a star in the celestial context, as they're both shining objects in the night sky.

In Modern English we have a very specific seperation of meanings between the two (the word 'planet' of course coming from a Latin word that means 'wanderer', based on the astronomical observation that the planets were not in 'fixed' positions and did move across the night sky), but Japanese does not have that distinction. So it's common to simply use the word 'star' to refer to the world itself (this also pops up in a lot of dubbed anime as well for the same reason). Yes it's a bit odd, but it also does enhance the antiquated, even alien, feel, of Eorzea as a setting. It's a part of worldbuilding. ;)

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

It's an outdated usage, but "star" can mean any large celestial body. The use of it in this game isn't technically incorrect, just imprecise.

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Technically correct insofar as it goes, but it still doesn't work in this case, and here's why:

Remember, they aren't using it to describe other worlds in the sky, they're using it of their own world. Now either the people of this world are scientifically advanced enough to know what the stars in their sky really are, or else they aren't.

1: If they aren't, they wouldn't call their world a star because it would never occur to them that their entire world would look like a star from far enough away.

2: If they are, they wouldn't call their world a star because they know better and wouldn't want to sound like morons.

So, the use of 'star' in this context is indeed flatly WRONG, born of a lazy localization team just using the easy direct 'google translate' level translations without paying any attention to context. It's like those Japanese product English language instruction manuals from the sixties: "Warning! To take and put the earth wire not having a smart holding, a fatal eventuality may incur!" Um... What?

1. Tanks who don't use their defensive CDs. Ever. Even on bosses. In SHB dungeons.

2. DPS who can't do a simple rotation (BLMs) and make the run take over 30 minutes because they can't play their job (BLMs).

3. People of all roles who become salty children when you give them simple advice so they can stop being garbage.

4. Female Miqo'te.

E2S pug enrage at 1% with two deaths: Lol bye
E2S pug enrage at 7% with one death: We can do this guys!

More of a tongue in cheek sort of annoyance, but seriously, we've got all these different outfits and colors and it never fails that I get a party dressed in all black or gray. Really?? All this work the devs put into designing these outfits and styles and everyone wants to dress like a goth or go naked. Okay then. :D

Getting Castrum Meridianum 99% of the time in my main scenario roulette which gives 2.5 times less exp. when your leveling other jobs. They need to fix this and make it equal.

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Originally Posted by Enla

Insta-pulls in 24-man content, before people even have the chance to set up or get to the arena. I get it, the content is easy, but it gives me an anxiety spike every time the tank sprints ahead to pull before even 3/4ths of the raid is in the room. It's almost always going to result in wipes and I wish people would at least stop for five seconds to let people get ready.

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That's not just with tanks, healers and dps do it too. because they're that impatient. I was in a Rabanastre 24 man, And one of the the healers in my group kept pulling the bosses in order to beat the reset timer (which obviously wasn't gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by MikuMitsuko

4. Female Miqo'te.

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Wow... what did we ever do to you? :(

Or maybe... didnt do...? :3

I really dislike how SE uses custom colors on gear that can't be dyed. And then on top of that, the colors don't work with any of the colors we do have access to. D: