Sell Fantasia on the Mogstation

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Originally Posted by makii

One thing will lead to another, that's how it starts.

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I'd like to place at least a bit of trust in them.
For all the speeches that Yoshi-P has done about 'not going free to play' and keeping the game on a subscription model, I'd say you'll have no worries about Cash Shop game breakers.

As this game doesn't have investors, it's coming out of the companies pocket, they don't need to make a quick buck off of items such as the likes Guild Wars 2 offered. There is no-one demanding a return on their investment, the long haul of subscriptions (should numbers stay high) would cover the development for this game and beyond over a long period of time. FFXI is the perfect example, the profits from subscriptions made Square Enix filthy rich.

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Originally Posted by Gramul

True as that may be, an option to change your characters race and such things is strictly not pay to win.
I'll object when they start charging for stuff like exp boosts, special mounts/pets, cashshop vanity gear, and things like that. Character redesigns and server transfers aren't game breaking nor do they bring any exclusive content to buyers. You need to set reasonable boundaries.

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The problem is p2w is subjective as is what is "reasonable", I have seen this in other games people saying blablabla it not p2w, it doesn't affect others and then 2 years later the same people are bemoaning the xp stones, raid timer bypasses etc etc and claiming it's p2w and wondering why there has been remarked decrease in people actually partying together.

Slippery Slope, this is a p2p game lets leave it at that. This is not to say I am against these things some of you want, I just want it added in an intelligent fashion, I never played WOW and never will because p2p and cash shop= equals no no and it's people that encourage this kind of thing which has led to truly subpar games like Neverwinter, STO etc etc.

Add these thing but make it content we will get access to via our normal MONTHLY SUB like it should be.

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Originally Posted by Asmodeus

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the thing with the games you listed is that none of them are actually P2P games -- they've been marketed as F2P cash shop from the get-go. you say you never played wow and that's kind of ironic, as that game is probably the closest example of a cash shop done right, where the only items it offers are cosmetic things that have zero effect on gameplay. selling character recustomization is completely harmless and isn't going to all of a sudden lead to B2W. it might lead to mounts/minions you can buy with real cash, but nothing significant to your gameplay experience. this isn't a f2p MMO so the devs don't need to nickle and dime you with some mandatory cash shop -- they're already getting their subscriber's money each month.

I would love to redo my characters looks from time to time. I'm already set to go on my first fantasia.

I'd prefer to have it cost seals or some other grinding type means in game. I wouldn't like paying real money for it, but if they had to choose that path I don't think I could pay more than $5 for it.

I wish this button would work
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Originally Posted by Stormsoul

the thing with the games you listed is that none of them are actually P2P games -- they've been marketed as F2P cash shop from the get-go. you say you never played wow and that's kind of ironic, as that game is probably the closest example of a cash shop done right, where the only items it offers are cosmetic things that have zero effect on gameplay. selling character recustomization is completely harmless and isn't going to all of a sudden lead to B2W. it might lead to mounts/minions you can buy with real cash, but nothing significant to your gameplay experience. this isn't a f2p MMO so the devs don't need to nickle and dime you with some mandatory cash shop -- they're already getting their subscriber's money each month.

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Maybe for Neverwinter, I threw that one in there because it's recent, but STO did not start off as a F2P game neither did DDO or Swtor etc etc and look where those have gone.


Like I said there will always be someone to say it's not p2w to them because it is just XYZ but to another that XYZ may be p2w. For example if your the kind that wants to enjoy owning every type of pet or mount yet some are cash shop only it then becomes p2w for that type of player.

For me if I pay a sub it's because I want to have access to ALL the CONTENT available with out being nickle and dimed, that includes things like storage, pets, mounts, cosmetics etc etc. IF any of this not available via my monthly sub then wth am I paying for?

If I am going to have to pay via a cash shop for these things even though I am already paying a monthly sub they might as well turn this into a f2p game because that is what it will be in my eyes no matter how it is worded or how they try to "spin it" to me.

You know some f2p cash shop games start out okay but they all gth eventually and worse thing is they use the same excuse that the items are not necessary to play the game or complete it etc, it's only for "convenience". -Slippery Slope

YOMV

Welp, I just called SE to charge me so I can get Fantasia, but they said "NOPE, wait 25 days." I also asked him if they will add Fantasia or other services to the Moogle station but he said there is no information about it... =.=

I was actually annoyed when they said they were extending the free period because of the server issues. "Nooooo! Take my money! I want my Fantasia now!"

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Originally Posted by Lucipurr

Welp, I just called SE to charge me so I can get Fantasia, but they said "NOPE, wait 25 days." I also asked him if they will add Fantasia or other services to the Moogle station but he said there is no information about it... =.=

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Support won't know anything about future services.
If the service doesn't exist or is 'planned to be launched soon' they'll have no idea if it even exists.

Your best just waiting for the community rep's to answer this thread.

1 Fantasia as an one-timer (for 1.0 accounts a two-timer) and the barber shop (that would cost gil) for the rest of the time should be enough.