Auto Attack wins!

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Oh, let me guess? Samurai? That's why I said "most melee jobs". Samurai and Thief were exceptions.

It's great that you play the game to have conversations... some people actually play the game to play the game.

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So you're not from the "More group content, stop catering to solo players, this is an MMO, if you don't want to socialize go back to single-player RPGs" camp?

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Originally Posted by trinta

So you're not from the "More group content, stop catering to solo players, this is an MMO, if you don't want to socialize go back to single-player RPGs" camp?

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Umm... you can be in groups and be "social" without spending most of your time in combat chatting away incessantly while waiting for your character to build up TP. We also have this nifty program called "Vent".

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Umm... you can be in groups and be "social" without spending most of your time in combat chatting away incessantly while waiting for your character to build up TP. We also have this nifty program called "Vent".

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Vent... how "NA" of you :p

I suppose you were one of those DDs that just whistled at 100% TP.

While other people had to be puller, had 1st provoke shifts to eat the shadows, then had to crossbow bolt the enemy for def down and other debuffs. And perish the thought of advance techniques like pulling before the enemy is dead, for chain 4-5-6, etc.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Not even warrior. Warriors had to be war/nins or war/thfs, or war/plds. None of those were wait for TP roles. Not unless you were "NA".

The only job that could have potentially been in the category was monk, but even monk changed as the game matured.

There was very little passiveness in FF11. And even dare say how bad it would be if you didn't communicate. It was very interactive in the same way you have to be stranded on a desert island with 5 other people. Nothing worked unless you combined your strengths...

...Of course that why the term "NA" stuck with FF11 for its life time. If you were a introvert that only did the minimum, you were shunned from society.

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I was mainly thinking of main job abilities so yea with sub-jobs there was no point in being uninvolved unless you are already bored with the game in the first place. I never had a dull moment (until abyssea) in all of my years playing ffxi and I spent most of my time in parties helping people or leveling.

Yeah, but see, I haven't found a way to say anything to anyone while still really being effective in combat in XIV. Having auto-attack will let me feel like I can spend two or three seconds typing a sentence.

If that makes someone mad, frankly, they should probably look into hobbies that don't involve other people.

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Originally Posted by kukurumei

Vent... how "NA" of you :p

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NA? As in North America?

If that's what you're implying, we had Japanese players on Vent all the time. And when they had trouble with English, I helped them translate.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

Oh, let me guess? Samurai? That's why I said "most melee jobs". Samurai and Thief were exceptions.

It's great that you play the game to have conversations... some people actually play the game to play the game.

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I played DRK in FFXI and I was kept very busy with drain's, absorb's, ACC and Attack buffs, weapon skills and so on with auto attack. Really Kaedan it is just starting to sound like you were a bad player in FFXI if you just let auto attack do it's thing every battle.

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Originally Posted by trinta

Yeah, but see, I haven't found a way to say anything to anyone while still really being effective in combat in XIV. Having auto-attack will let me feel like I can spend two or three seconds typing a sentence.

If that makes someone mad, frankly, they should probably look into hobbies that don't involve other people.

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I was never for AA but that was my only reason I wouldn't be made if we got it, now I can say something without standing there looking brain dead for a few seconds.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I played DRK in FFXI and I was kept very busy with drain's, absorb's, ACC and Attack buffs, weapon skills and so on with auto attack. Really Kaedan it is just starting to sound like you were a bad player in FFXI if you just let auto attack do it's thing every battle.

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lol FU Alexia.

I didn't do these things. Those are the things I saw people doing. The bad AA implementation in FFXI encouraged bad gameplay by bad players.

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Originally Posted by Kaedan

NA? As in North America?

If that's what you're implying, we had Japanese players on Vent all the time. And when they had trouble with English, I helped them translate.

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If you don't get the the joke, I don't think you're quite qualified to talk about FF11 party tactics and society. It was rough and draconian. Everyone was pressured to be at 110%.

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Originally Posted by AlexiaKidd

I played DRK in FFXI and I was kept very busy with drain's, absorb's, ACC and Attack buffs, weapon skills and so on with auto attack. Really Kaedan it is just starting to sound like you were a bad player in FFXI if you just let auto attack do it's thing every battle.

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He doesn't get the "NA" joke. I think he's not a regular.