No Arrows in ARR?!

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Originally Posted by Rokien

OH SORRY, forgot it was SUUUUPPPERR easy to get gil right now....

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It is...and always has been.

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Originally Posted by PSxpert2011

GG SE, you mock the integrity of RPGing everywhere and every time.

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Please list all of the FF games where you have to actually buy the ammo for your bow/gun/etc.

I find it funny how people complain about stuff being unrealistic in this game while at the same time have no problems accepting that you can conjure balls of fire, lightningbolts, blizzards and so on.

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Originally Posted by HiirNoivl

That aside...

Can I have a show of hands who has had the "Oh No!" moment where you run out of arrows in the middle of a primal fight or raid and have tried to hide that fact from the rest of the party?

EDIT: Just hit the like button if you're too shy to admit it! XD

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Hiir you have no idea how many times this happened to me in aleport.

Arrows and bullets are archaic old MMO relics that should be happily discarded. In ffxi, before the great ranger nerf, people used to defend RNG's amazing damage by saying "they pay for that damage". To prevent balance issues and maintain damage output equality, this is a necessary change.

Currently, the ammunition system isn't really even a gil sink., it's just a transfer of gil from archers/bards to crafters at max level. Now if max level arrows could only be purchased via NPC's, then this might be a different issue (removal of a frequently used gil sink could cause economic issues). Since that's not the case, I say to hell with them.

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Originally Posted by NoctisUmbra

They still make bows and lances as well. CRP will be far from useless.

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You completely missed my point. Each crafting class has at least one recipe that results in several consumable items, and generally requires few materials to craft them (certain potions, foods, and arrows are all good examples.) These items are usually very good to craft through certain levels, and often profitable. Weapons and armor are never in as high demand as expendables, and the only equipment people bother to buy repeatedly is often high-level gear due to the way materia crafting works.

So yeah CRP will be useless, since it will only be profitable at endgame, and it won't be worth grinding levels on gear that no one buys to get it to endgame, never mind the millions of gil you would have to make in order to just break even. Why not just admit you can't accept anything in an MMO unless it follows WOW's example?

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Originally Posted by Deakka

Arrows and bullets are archaic old MMO relics that should be happily discarded.

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Careful there buddy. Inconvenience and archaic design is the same thing as challenge to most of the XI drones around here. Also, this idea sucks because WoW did it.

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Originally Posted by Rokien

No, but gaining gil, playing the economy is a lot harder than "here ya go, hand holding more!"

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You play the economy to buy items in the multimillion gil range, not to buy arrows
I'd be more angry about the materia nerfs in 2.0 personally

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Originally Posted by Amherst

Careful there buddy. Inconvenience and archaic design is the same thing as challenge to most of the XI drones around here. Also, this idea sucks because WoW did it. Just getting that out there.

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You have used up your generic bullcrap reasoning tokens for the day, please come back tomorrow for more bull crap tokens.

:D (I get you were playing with him lol)

I would care more if different arrows actually did different things in this game.

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Originally Posted by Vanguard319

You completely missed my point. Each crafting class has at least one recipe that results in several consumable items, and generally requires few materials to craft them (certain potions, foods, and arrows are all good examples.) These items are usually very good to craft through certain levels, and often profitable. Weapons and armor are never in as high demand as expendables, and the only equipment people bother to buy repeatedly is often high-level gear due to the way materia crafting works.

So yeah CRP will be useless, since it will only be profitable at endgame, and it won't be worth grinding levels on gear that no one buys to get it to endgame, never mind the millions of gil you would have to make in order to just break even. Why not just admit you can't accept anything in an MMO unless it follows WOW's example?

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So what consumables do goldsmiths, blacksmiths, armorers, weavers and leather workers make?