New Alliance Raid is severely undertuned.

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Originally Posted by LittleImp

I just want the bosses to have more HP so that they get to showcase all of their mechanics.

The way some of the 24 mans melt just isn't respectful to the original design intentions of the content, and can be very underwhelming for new players and old players alike.

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Yeah, I find it weird thinking this myself, given how much people dislike "damage sponges" in games, but I don't care so much about difficulty as them just getting to show off the whole routine while they're still new. If they had a bit more HP they'd get to do that and our gear in 6.2 and 6.3 would naturally start saving time once there's other things to do, just like all the past alliance raids.

I think the issue with mechanics not showing up past the initial teaching phase is definitely exacerbated by 14's modern "teleport to center of arena. Cast for a hundred years. Do nothing for the next twenty seconds" model of boss design. It leaves huge gaps of downtime that players use to beat them faster.

It seems fairly consistent with every other alliance raid at launch.

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Originally Posted by PangTong

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They nerfed thunder daddy 3 stack from a one shot to 60% hp and a vuln because apparently the player base was too mentally challenged to get 3 people to stack in a circle.

Not sure what you're expecting.

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

Not falling asleep for 70 minutes is more boring that not falling asleep for 50 minutes, don't you think ?.

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that's why you make it not boring. as it stands now its to easy and boring.

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Originally Posted by Vrankyl

I don't understand the assumption that the moment someone asks things to be tuned a bit better that they are immediately a Savage/Ultimate raider and want to gatekeep. Or that they want everything to be at Savage difficulty, which not even savage is anymore which is its own separate issue. I personally don't bother with Savage or Ultimate, I don't want to fight the same boss for hours wiping constantly but at the same time I don't want to be able to beat said boss with half the alliance having died at some point with death debuffs and vuln debuffs galore and still not even generate a single LB3 on week 2. Hells, I'm not even in full i590 yet. I just want to be able to have a nice time where I can see all of the boss's mechanics and use LB3s while the content is still current, and not be able to pull up Netflix on my second monitor and watch that while just numbly following to victory.

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you don't? this people want the game to be on auto play 100% of the time so they cn get all the good looking glams and not play.

I'd rather seem them increase the speed of which attacks happen than they upping the boss health.

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Originally Posted by DuskTS

I don't get this forum obsession with turning every content into savage.
Just go play Elden Ring if you want to stress your hair out over pixels.
If you don't find FFXIV engaging enough go do Ultimate like Yoshi-P says.

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Maybe read the post next time, you clearly didn't if you took from this that anybody was saying it needs to be savage difficulty.

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Originally Posted by IdowhatIwant

This is wrong, unless they change something in future patches which typically doesn't happen. We will have to run this for the rest of the expansion for tokens to upgrade gear, unless you do the savage content for the same tokens.

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Okay, I'll grant you that. But I still don't think they intend the earlier alliance raids to be the same challenge throughout the entire expansion, as the earlier comment seemed to imply.

Intention aside, I also do not think it would be practical to make a single alliance raid a challenge from the at-launch combat gear tier (i.e., the range from i560 artifact gear through to i600 savage or augmented tomestone gear) all the way through to the final gear tier of the expansion (which, I assume, likely ends at i660, probably i665 when the relic weapon for this expansion is in its final stage); that would literally be a 100 ilevel range. Yes, we have ilevel sync. It is also wonky as heck, as we can see with how even synced down, people can faceroll the Crystal Tower alliance raids now.

And even without level sync, it's demonstrably hard enough to tune content just for a 30-ilevel range and still have the low-level and the high-level of that range have a power differential you can actually witness/feel.

Because folks who raid savage do want there to be a measurable difference between the base level of gear you start raiding with (i580, right now) and the high end of the raiding gear tier (i600). (Or at least, I know I want to feel like upgrading my gear actually makes a difference, as do many other raiders in my social circle.)

Considering the alliance raid has to be at least theoretically possible with everyone in i565 gear, and how much of a difference bumping from even i580 base gear to a mix of i590 and i600 can make in savage... I am not at all surprised that the fights are starting to feel faster/less hard-hitting.

After all, we're two weeks in, which means anyone could now have 2 pieces of left-side i590 gear (the Panthean armor drop for each week), plus two pieces of i600 gear (Radiant stuff augmented with the token) on either left or right side, all without ever setting foot in savage. That is going to make a noticeable difference, I suspect. Even if the alliance raid isn't slightly undertuned.

(Which, as mentioned earlier, I do think it is -- but I also think it's due to the stats squash and the team not quite having a feel for how best to balance the new numbers, which is both potentially easily adjusted and not really the end of the world even if it isn't ever changed.)

Nald'thal is pretty neat but the other fights in the alliance raid are pretty zzzzzzzzzzzz, yeah. I don't think anything will be as hard as the Ivalice alliance raids ever again (...nor should they be, honestly. DF content shouldn't be that awful to complete). but I'd definitely like them to be a step up from the Nier raids in terms of difficulty. I don't even necessarily want harder mechanics, I just want faster ones.