Y'shtola is a Mary Sue.

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Originally Posted by Droxybrobotnik

The entire story is a big Mary Sue, dude. What do you think would have happened if that airship has not crashed into the shield generator in the castrum? Or if the Garleans had put the generator inside the shield.

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that's a coincidence.
It's only a mary sue if somehow YOU made the ship crash.
Or if you set things up that no matter what happens, it's all according to plan. Like Batman.

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Originally Posted by Conundrum

The end of EW made me lose a ton of respect for the writers because it shows me that they don't have any guts in their writing...."oh we might make some players mad if XXXXX dies".

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If they all died and we were the only one left after that journey it would have been a LOT more interesting. Mostly it would let some of the other characters that got introduced actually start filling vital roles, but we'd probably have to rely on people of the first to go to other worlds instead of relying on Yshtola and company on the source. We left off with some characters in Shadowbringers doing stuff with the 13th.

Got bonked by a book and you say she has no weakness?

I love the plot but the writers really cannot help themselves with these fake-out deaths. How many times has Y'shtola "died" now? Three? Poor Papalymo and Moenbryda are gone forever but she always finds some way to come back.

Or maybe this is a meta joke about cats having 9 lives.

Not a fan of her either. Aloof and, frankly, arrogant don't do anything for me.

And I feel that the 'little sun' thing she is (in)famous for was completely overrated. In fact it made me dislike her even more, because instead of a gentle put-down she just outright humiliates the poor fella for absolutely no good reason.

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Originally Posted by Zabuza

Yes, the fake death thing has been played out. I guess I'm thinking of Mary Sue more in the context of that she is emotionally and mentally invincible. You could tell her that her sister died and she'd probably reply with something like 'That is... most unfortunate.'

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Aren't cats supposed to have nine lives? She still has more lives to give. Please don't talk bad about my kitty poo I loves her

The term 'Mary Sue' is ultimately useless because it comes down to a question of authenticity, on whether you, as a member of the audience, can personally accept the character in question as a 'real' hero actually capable of performing all those amazing feats. Some people are naturally inclined to question characters that don't match up to their internal framework of what a 'hero' ought to look and act like, looking find fault in order to justify their reflexive distrust.

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Originally Posted by Kolsykol

Biggest disappointment in EW for me was that Yugiri was side-lined.
She has been around since ARR and helped us a lot after the ending to ARR, she was one of the few allies we had left.
All we got from her in EW was a view of her back in the end credits.

Imo she should've taken Doman soldiers with her to help us in Garlemald.

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That was likely a byproduct of her voice actress having been (tragically) murdered in real life.

I think that Y'shtola's time for development will happen over the next few patches and possibly the next expansion. She clearly wants to get back to first and Runar, I think she sees the first as somewhere she belongs. Once she learned she could not stay in the first due to her body slowly dying in the source, she made it her aim to find a way to return. We are seeing the beginnings of her working to bridge the gaps with the other shards so she can make it back to the first. Given how much she is drawn to the first and Runar, I wonder if Runar might be the sundered part of Y'shtola in the first. This would be similar to how Ardbert was drawn to the WoL due to being the sundered part of the WoL. Although that would make for an awkward relationship between Y'shtola and Runar.

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Originally Posted by Carin-Eri

That was likely a byproduct of her voice actress having been (tragically) murdered in real life.

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That was in Heavensward tho, she had a different voice actress in Stormblood.