State of the Game: Savage+ Dungeons and End Game Leves

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Originally Posted by Ridrina

Hi everyone!

I just wanted to sneak in to say, we very much appreciate your valuable ideas and feedback regarding more high-difficulty content! We escalated this thread to the devs, but please note this doesn't guarantee that these ideas will be implemented.

On that note, my Pomander of Concealment is wearing off (who cleared Heaven on High?!) :cool: Thanks again!

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I share only partly what the OP said, but I'm happy that this got attention nonetheless

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Originally Posted by Sebazy

This is quite possibly the most absurd thing you've ever stated on these forums.

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I'm still waiting for someone to prove they can clear new content legitimately. That's not an absurd request.

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Originally Posted by Lilseph

Small correction here. Parsing has been a thing since first Coil. And many others MMO before this one. It was FFlogs the one that was born mid/end Gordias.

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Ah, thank you! I wasn't around for first coil...since I didn't join the game until around the Gordias era.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'm still waiting for someone to prove they can clear new content legitimately. That's not an absurd request.

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we're still waiting for you to actually play Savage. Money where your mouth is, Kisai.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

we're still waiting for you to actually play Savage. Money where your mouth is, Kisai.

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Hey! That's chest thumping!

Don't you dare ask for somebody to actually have attempted content before talking trash about it, or the people that partake in it.

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Originally Posted by KaivaC

we're still waiting for you to actually play Savage. Money where your mouth is, Kisai.

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Originally Posted by SargentToughie

Hey! That's chest thumping!

Don't you dare ask for somebody to actually have attempted content before talking trash about it, or the people that partake in it.

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The request is still "Show me you can clear new content without using parsers" first. Even if you could clear it on minimum ilevel synced now, players are already trained to tainted parser feedback.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'm still waiting for someone to prove they can clear new content legitimately. That's not an absurd request.

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I'm not really sure what this has to do with my response beyond further confirming your disdain for the raiding scene?

But sure, I'll entertain you. First up, my T5 clear was before (the now defunct) xivapp and I was EU 10th or thereabouts. So pretty much any hardcore replays from early 2.0 will be completely parse and trigger free. As far as more recent stuff goes. You do realise that the parse plugin typically gets broken with each release of a new raid tier right? The first day or two of world progression is usually parse free with a beta plugin taking a day or two and a full release typically coming a few days after that. So uh yeah. I'd list a few of my FC's world first videos for you, but then I doubt you actually care so meh.

Now entertain me for a moment here. Has it ever occurred to you that maybe.... just maybe Yoshida is actually absolutely fine with the current status quo? Raiders get their challenging content and parsing (with the caveat of fight club rules applying) whilst the casuals get an easy mode romp through to focus on cutscenes and storylines with little to no fear of getting pressured or called out.

This has a couple of nice bonuses for his team as well. They get a robust parsing and ranking system developed and hosted at zero cost or man hours. And with them both being 3rd party tools, they get an easy card to crack down on anyone who steps over the line or uses these to abuse their fellow players. I think it's actually a pretty clever approach.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

The request is still "Show me you can clear new content without using parsers" first. Even if you could clear it on minimum ilevel synced now, players are already trained to tainted parser feedback.

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Funny thing...I cleared V1S and V3S, all without even knowing that parsers had existed until I started farming. You know, curse of being on a PS4. Pretty sure I've mentioned this a good while ago, before I started being a forum regular. Ah...and btw, I was on AST, RDM, and DRK. In fact, now that I think about it, I didn't even look into parsers until Deltascape Savage was unlocked. Before Shinryu Ex came out, I didn't use parsers at all - I remember the first group that I started asking for parsers because they carried me while I was on RDM. I remember this clearly because I screwed up at the end of the fight and didn't use the LB3 when the wings were targetable (I was the only ranged). Then that same group got me my first clear 10 minutes later on that particular fight.

What's your excuse?

Ah, and let me add, I cleared V5S and V6S on the first week. When parsers weren't even accurate. So there's that too.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

I'm still waiting for someone to prove they can clear new content legitimately. That's not an absurd request.

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Basically every day 1 clear of content is done without a parser, as the thing requires an update after every major content patch, which takes a day or two.

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Originally Posted by KisaiTenshi

The request is still "Show me you can clear new content without using parsers" first. Even if you could clear it on minimum ilevel synced now, players are already trained to tainted parser feedback.

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All of the people who cleared the content on day one since every major patch update, and even minor patches, because the tool does wonky things until it's updated itself. But, if you had actually used ACT, you'd know about that discrepancy.