Skills/spells you see no reason to use since you got to 60?

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Originally Posted by Miscreant

And you still haven't learnt what Eye for an Eye does?

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the majority of the playerbase as no idea how it works :x how often i have seen people using it on a DD or Heal with low life to "shield" them xD

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Originally Posted by Gallus

Costs less mana, is instant cast and might eventually outdamage stone III due to it's DoT nature and how spell speed works. If you cast PoM and do Aero, it should do more damage than stone III (supposedly, haven't tested it myself :P).

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okay, it is MUCH cheaper, that's correct and you can cast it while moving. but even with spellspeedbuild it does less damage than my stone 3. and PoM will not increase the damage, because PoM no longer increase your spellspeed. it shortens only the casttime now.

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Originally Posted by Tint

the majority of the playerbase as no idea how it works :x how often i have seen people using it on a DD or Heal with low life to "shield" them xD

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It's so sad, if used right it's one of your best mitigation abilities and so many people overlook it.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

Why so obsessed with weaving?
Broil is 170 potency. Ruin is 80 potency. How much time are you gaining by weaving a non GCD skill/spell or buff? At most like 0.5 seconds. That's 1/5 time of an entire 2.5 seconds cast. Let's assume for a moment though, that weaving a non GCD skill/spell or buff saves you an entire second, you are still not even saving the time of half of a cast. Why on earth would you prioritize doing an 80 potency spell in 1.5/2 seconds over a 170 potency one in 2.5 seconds?

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Now take in to consideration the duration of a whole fight and how much those 0.5 seconds add up, now think about double weaving, with a Ruin II you can get off an Energy Drain and a Swift Cast before you put down your Shadowflare. Or you can double weave an energy drain and Aetherflow, it's all situational though, but there are time when you priorities Ruin II over Broil.

Also, Ruin II + Energy Drain is 80 + 150 = 230 potency in one GCD v.s. Broil is 170 potency

If playing as a DPS should help you learn anything it's that disrupting your GCD leads to a DPS loss, obviously healers have to also consider well timed healing, but a good Scholar contributes to the groups DPS and should consider all of these.

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Originally Posted by Marcu18

I know I'm not the best but I'm not a bad healer.

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Keep telling yourself that.

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Originally Posted by Marcu18

Eye for an eye, dissipation, deployment tactics, sustain, miasma 2 lol!!!

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The only ones agruably useless on that list are sustain and dissipation. Miasma II has a pass, but the spell is a bit underwhelming I'll give you that. However, deployment tactics used properly I can assure you is a powerful tool (situational, but powerful).
As for Eye for an Eye, you don't know how it works so I'll explain it <.<. You apply a buff to a member that lasts 30 seconds (normally your tank), every time that person is hit there is a 20% chance the enemy will get an eye for an eye debuff, and when that happens (basically always), that enemy does 10% reduced damage for the next 30 seconds. To sum up, you can almost treat eye for an eye like a 10% damage reduction buff on your tank, except it won't have instant effect, you'll start noticing smaller hits after 5-10 seconds (this is why applying it right before a tank buster is dumb).

@Miscreant,

Maybe I am mistaken but the airy if you use it, has a Healing power increase of 40 % + your own. If you remove it to gain yourself 20 % you kind of *lose* 20 % effectiveness of potential Healing, on top of it, you need to resumon your fairy, either by using swift cast + call fairy, or by stop walking call your fairy with the risk of being one shotted. If you use swift cast + call fairy you spend mana + an important skill that shoudl be used for things far more important then that.

But maybe I have a biaised perception of it...just I wont use that skill again. This is the beauty of this game, different people use different ways to finally achieve same goal if let to do it

Mei

You would have to save 2.5 seconds via weaving in each Ruin II to make up for every broil you don't use, not the case, so I can't see your point.

Broil + non weaved energy drain + Broil is always going to be superior than Ruin II + weaved energy drain + Broil.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

You would have to save 2.5 seconds via weaving in each Ruin II to make up for every broil you don't use, not the case, so I can't see your point.

Broil + non weaved energy drain + Broil is always going to be superior than Ruin II + weaved energy drain + Broil.

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I think she was more of saying if you had 2 oGDCs ruinII could be nice, also if you need to uncleric and heal it puts the dot up so theirs that. It has uses just peghole uses it sounds. Many Dps are all about weaving which might be the mindset also.

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Originally Posted by MeiUshu

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So Dissipation is a funny one, you're correct your healing output with the fairy is better, but when you have no mana, no Aetherflow and no Bard your fairies healing alone is not greater than your solo healing output with mana and +20%. Thats the type of situation that Dissipation can be used for healing, it's very niche.

But I prefer to use it for DPS, I will blow up/absorb my pet in parts of the fight where my fairies healing isn't needed and use those Aetherflow stacks for Energy Drains, I usually blow up/absorb Selene early on and switch to Eos in progression making sure I pop Fey Wind before Dissipation, it's a boost to my DPS and in situations like A1 Savage where you want to do as much damage as possible before the second Oppressor comes it can help, if every Energy Drain hits, you have just added an extra 450 potency of attacks and replenished your mana.

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Originally Posted by Gallus

You would have to save 2.5 seconds via weaving in each Ruin II to make up for every broil you don't use, not the case, so I can't see your point.

Broil + non weaved energy drain + Broil is always going to be superior than Ruin II + weaved energy drain + Broil.

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I'm not saying I always do Ruin II + Energy Drain, I do do Broil + Energy Drain too, but its situational, got one Aetherflow stack left and a new Aetherflow to be popped, a Ruin II is better as I can get off the Energy Drain and Aetherflow before my next GCD starts, same with a Ruin II + Enery Drain + Swifcast.

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Originally Posted by justinjarjar

I think she was more of saying if you had 2 oGDCs ruinII could be nice, also if you need to uncleric and heal it puts the dot up so theirs that. It has uses just peghole uses it sounds. Many Dps are all about weaving which might be the mindset also.

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Maybe I worded it badly but that is basically what I'm trying to say :)

Knew I should of not have read this, and would only end up getting annoyed

How people can say convert for blm is never useful is beyond me, and is damning indictment of how p!ss poor some people are at this game.
There are others, but maining blm, reading that in particular hurt my soul

@Miscreant,

Yeah in that I can agree, although you and me are on different Spectrum I consider my primarely position as a healer and as such attacking is done with either broil or Ruin, which I would never sacrifice my selene for allowing me a 20 % Healing with the difficult it would result in doing it just to attack. Although, when I tested that thing, I used it at the very end of the fight, that point I will agree, where I gain 20 % Healing + can attack fast and efficient...while maintaining at least for some seconds a level of efficiency relatively good, knowing that i can survive some couple of minutes more without my fairy..but only at the very end...bah just me..I love différences..

thanks for the convo

Mei the crazy