How is BLM in new expansion?

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Originally Posted by Sayori

That's simply cause both of these fights aren't movement heavy. Seriously, in bismarck phase 2 i can just stand on the edge and turret everything down while picking my nose. Ofcourse you'll have good dps. Now put blm with some aoe dropping monstrosity and look at that dps plummet.

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Well, once you get accustomed to the fights, you can plan for the AOEs.

The last time SE buffed Black Mage they were so op that Summoner had no purpose in the game. There were sub par Black Mages out dpsing above average Summoner's by 50dps while Black Mages who knew what they were doing out dpsed Summoner by 80dps.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

The last time SE buffed Black Mage they were so op that Summoner had no purpose in the game. There were sub par Black Mages out dpsing above average Summoner's by 50dps while Black Mages who knew what they were doing out dpsed Summoner by 80dps.

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Yeah let's not talk about that utility summoner provides.. Come on.
Also a good summoner could outdps most black mages. Sure, there were mp issues but they fixed that.

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Originally Posted by Sayori

Also a good summoner could outdps most black mages. Sure, there were mp issues but they fixed that.

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That depends entirely on the fight.


And if you are talking about 2.X content, then no, assuming same skill level, BLM was always better in FcoB which I am sure is what Akiza was talking about.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

That depends entirely on the fight.


And if you are talking about 2.X content, then no, assuming same skill level, BLM was always better in FcoB which I am sure is what Akiza was talking about.

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Yet SMN was better in Turns 1-7 and Turn 9.

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Originally Posted by Numenor1379

Yet SMN was better in Turns 1-7 and Turn 9.

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It was until they buffed BLM, yes. then BLM became better in every turn that isn't T1 and T7.

Any fight that have movement mechanics in Alex, its already outshined by SMN easily.

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Originally Posted by OneWingedSora

It was until they buffed BLM, yes. then BLM became better in every turn that isn't T1 and T7.

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So its okay for SMN to Outshine BLM for two Coils but is bad when they're finally the better caster in Final?
I would like both casters to be good, not one or the other.

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Originally Posted by Akiza

If SE overeacts and flat out buff Black Mage potency again they should give Summoner Teraflare as a normal spell with 1200 potency and a 3min cd just to balance it out.

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Do you pull these numbers out of a hat or do you honestly think a 1200 potency CD would have to be added to SMN if BLM got at all buffed?

I think BLM is in a fine spot for content right now. If Savage Alexander is at all like Savage T6-9 I don't think we'd see much BLM in high end groups TBH. Just speculation. We'll see what kind of mobility they need, or if they might change some timers here or there before then (still hoping for 30s Enochian refresh no matter what!).

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Originally Posted by Tman00

So its okay for SMN to Outshine BLM for two Coils but is bad when they're finally the better caster in Final?
I would like both casters to be good, not one or the other.

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That's the thing, there will always be a better caster depending on the fight, people just need to learn to live with that.

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Originally Posted by Sleigh

Do you pull these numbers out of a hat or do you honestly think a 1200 potency CD would have to be added to SMN if BLM got at all buffed?

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He was being sarcastic probably.