The female DRG AF belly window needs to be closed

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Originally Posted by Lilyarel

How about all armour is removed from the game and we all have the exact same models and faces with zero difference. Or better yet, we have no solid bodies. Were all balls of light that communicate with beeps and blips.

There. Everyones happy.

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why only blips and beeps, I'm offended that there wouldn't be and boops. And also what have you got against a square of polkadots, or a tetrahedron of stripes?

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Originally Posted by ArcaviusGreyashe

If you really wanna complain about something : How come females can equip male's wedding costume while males can't equip female's wedding costume ? That's sexist !

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female characters can't equip the male outfit for the eternal bonding ceremony

I don't mind it, and it's one of the only armors that actually look different on male and female.

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Originally Posted by AkashiXI

It is the same, men have their chest slightly exposed, but it's more prominent on women because of their bust. See: Lalafells wearing it, either gender.

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Male Front: http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http:...om/LF462je.jpg
Female Front: http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http:...om/zkUryMz.jpg
Male Back: http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http:...om/mdNZ8ei.jpg
Female Back: http://img.prntscr.com/img?url=http:...om/8PMCZ15.jpg

Note the distinct and utter lack of an undershirt for females. It is NOT the same. The difference in amount of skin shown is actually greater than with the DRG outfit.
I didn't have a female Lalafell available for modeling purposes right now, but they lack the undershirt as well.

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Originally Posted by Riepah

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You are really trying to stretch it in poor attempts to make a point. The only AF armors that have a noticeable difference between one another is DRG and NIN.

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Originally Posted by Velhart

You are really trying to stretch it in poor attempts to make a point. The only AF armors that have a noticeable difference between one another is DRG and NIN.

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Uh... If you find the difference between the BRD outfits not "noticeable", you may want to have your eyes examined. How providing picture proof is "trying to stretch it" eludes me. I really don't think shouting "IT'S THE SAME!" is more valid.

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Originally Posted by Dualblade

Nin has reach, Drg has flexability.

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Shouldnt that be the other way around...?

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Originally Posted by Velhart

You are really trying to stretch it in poor attempts to make a point. The only AF armors that have a noticeable difference between one another is DRG and NIN.

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What about WHM AF? Are their pants also the same?

female monk also show more skin than male monk

http://i.imgur.com/mO5fb.jpg

Well, Lily, when you see the animations for some DRG skills, DRG are... pretty impressive in terms of flexibility x)

But yeah, indeed, female WHM don't get underpants, female BRD are slightly more exposed, and so. My point is, even though that's the case, do we really need to make such a fuss about it ? Some are justified, some are not, and that's it, it's not as vulgar as in other MMO (*cough* TERA *cough*), and it's no big deal... And it would be awful if my WHM had underpants like males have =(

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Originally Posted by Gralna

female characters can't equip the male outfit for the eternal bonding ceremony

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Even if that's the case, Gralna, I want my male Roe to wear a wedding dress once in a while, why not ? ;-;

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Originally Posted by Velhart

There is a ton of armor that shows a lot of skin on both male and female on all jobs.

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Certainly there is. But we're talking about DRG armor specifically in this thread. There's no arguing that glamour allows for a rainbow of options - but none of those options allows for Dragoon armor on a male character with stomach exposed. Or, for that matter, Dragoon armor on a female with stomach covered.

Honestly, it's a discussion that has no end. SE is extremely unlikely to do anything about the original armors at this point, and so folks are going to be bickering about it until the end of time.

With any luck, though, in the future they'll avoid the silliness. Armor can be cut differently across genders - females DO have a different body shape than males, there's no denying that - but if it's going to be fanservicey on one gender, it should likewise be on the other.

I honestly can't believe people are still arguing about this. Why do you want everything to look the same? I find the tank classes to be unbelievably dull for this very reason. I hate my character having such a "masculine" look to her when in the Poetic tank gear. It's dull. It's boring. It's unexciting. I will never understand some people's need to try and "fix" things for everyone else. If you don't like the DRG look to the AF armor, don't use it, there's plenty of other options that don't have that small feature on it. And yes, it is a small feature.