"You pull, you tank" is a bad mentality

ok you got me. Apologies if this comes out twice. I deleted the wrong post.

129 Pages for something that doesn't impact anyone's gameplay. Doesn't matter who's running ahead, the tank just does what they do every dungeon, which is hold W and press their AoE button.

If a healer can't handle W2W pulls, then that's not a DPS pulling ahead issue, that's a healer/tank issue.

I hold W as a healer and pull mobs if tank is behind me, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if a tank pulls a YPYT, because healers are Gods.

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Originally Posted by Miradelle

129 Pages for something that doesn't impact anyone's gameplay. Doesn't matter who's running ahead, the tank just does what they do every dungeon, which is hold W and press their AoE button.

If a healer can't handle W2W pulls, then that's not a DPS pulling ahead issue, that's a healer/tank issue.

I hold W as a healer and pull mobs if tank is behind me, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if a tank pulls a YPYT, because healers are Gods.

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Well that's a waste of Swiftcast if I ever saw one.
Unless there are other ways that do not require you to stop.

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Originally Posted by Miradelle

129 Pages for something that doesn't impact anyone's gameplay. Doesn't matter who's running ahead, the tank just does what they do every dungeon, which is hold W and press their AoE button.

If a healer can't handle W2W pulls, then that's not a DPS pulling ahead issue, that's a healer/tank issue.

I hold W as a healer and pull mobs if tank is behind me, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if a tank pulls a YPYT, because healers are Gods.

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I have lost track of how many of these inconsequential wipes I have had to walk back from. As it happens it was twice today with a lowbie tank I am levelling.

If someone else pulled before the tank pull, unless they are running off all over the place, the tank should be able to hit the mobs with 1~2 AoE GCDs and get back the enmity.

If the group ends up wiping because of pulling too much (from getting back the enmity etc.), it could be because of the gear issues during levelling and we all had that at some point (ignoring skill issues since it's a different problem when levelling), in that case you can communicate in the chat and try asking them to not pull ahead, they should be able to understand that if w2w pulls lead to wiping, single pulls would be faster, if they just want to troll anyway after asking, you could write a report.

At the end of the day, it isn't that hard to communicate in the chat, something like "How about we pull more/less?" or "Please don't pull ahead of me since I am still learning" or so.




But I suppose the mentality of "You Pull You Tank" is about 'punishing the player whom dare to pull ahead of me the absolute group leader' thing so what I have said above probably means nothing to them.

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Originally Posted by Chajii

If the group ends up wiping because of pulling too much (from getting back the enmity etc.), it could be because of the gear issues during levelling and we all had that at some point (ignoring skill issues since it's a different problem when levelling), in that case you can communicate in the chat and try asking them to not pull ahead, they should be able to understand that if w2w pulls lead to wiping, single pulls would be faster, if they just want to troll anyway after asking, you could write a report.

At the end of the day, it isn't that hard to communicate in the chat, something like "How about we pull more/less?" or "Please don't pull ahead of me since I am still learning" or so.

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Nuh uh, that just means the tank is toxic and we should kick them for not being FASTER!

(This is satire.)

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Originally Posted by Miradelle

129 Pages for something that doesn't impact anyone's gameplay. Doesn't matter who's running ahead, the tank just does what they do every dungeon, which is hold W and press their AoE button.

If a healer can't handle W2W pulls, then that's not a DPS pulling ahead issue, that's a healer/tank issue.

I hold W as a healer and pull mobs if tank is behind me, it doesn't matter. It doesn't even matter if a tank pulls a YPYT, because healers are Gods.

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Then please by all means post a video of you doing W2W pull as a Healer on the latest dungeon and keeping yourself alive during it. If "healers are gods"

You can't and you won't.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

Then please by all means post a video of you doing W2W pull as a Healer on the latest dungeon and keeping yourself alive during it. If "healers are gods"

You can't and you won't.

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Shoot, I'll do it. I'll be back in a little bit my friends in Hydaelyn.

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Originally Posted by Chajii

If the group ends up wiping because of pulling too much (from getting back the enmity etc.), it could be because of the gear issues during levelling <snip>

At the end of the day, it isn't that hard to communicate in the chat, something like "How about we pull more/less?" or "Please don't pull ahead of me since I am still learning" or so.

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Not with Dzemael Darkhold, and the frogs. Also, in terms of communication, some tanks do ask, and then people ignore that.

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Originally Posted by Grimforth

Then please by all means post a video of you doing W2W pull as a Healer on the latest dungeon and keeping yourself alive during it. If "healers are gods"

You can't and you won't.

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Yeah that's stretching it. I did manage to get two DPS through almost all of Yuwuwueyatawhatever Field Station as a sage because the tank kept disconnecting and then we just never got a new one, but after one supremely spicy wall to wall pull we decided to go a little slower. The last boss was a lot of fun though. Definitely had to pull out all the healing stops.