Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

I thought this echo chamber was closed.

Why... is this a thing? Please just stop making these threads.

It's baffling that people see a thread with over 1800 likes and 1250 pages and pretend as though there's only a small amount of interest in what is being requested.

The echo chamber comments are tiresome, too, since anyone who bothers to even glance at the thread to any degree would see that although many of us want to see male viera added to the game this thread is the opposite of an echo chamber as the desire for what they should look like varies quite a bit.

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Originally Posted by SturmChurro

You are right. I have posted since day 1 I couldn't care less if they added male viera. This is more of a chat thread than anything else. I was glad when I thought they deleted the thread (hid it?), I had been calling for this thread's deletion since like, well at this point hundreds of pages ago.

I just think it is odd, that you, who were so adamant pages ago, are now flipping the argument. Maybe it wasn't you though.

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When the thread disappeared I figure a good portion of the missing genders supporters decided to stop the circular arguments and just... support their inclusion in the first place. Let Yoshi-P and Matsuno worry about Lore excuses and how they will look like, we just want them in the game.

People are allowed to change their minds, yo

What if the last batches of Black rose exist in the Golmore jungle and one of Garlemald's viceroys set their eyes on it? That would be a great excuse for male Viera to consider taking the fight to the Garleans for breaking their deal about leaving Golmore alone. Furthermore, Garlemald would want to retake Doma and what better route than the one through Golmore Jungle-Nagxia? Remember, we closed their airship route with the Seiryu wall.

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Originally Posted by Amnmaat

What if the last batches of Black rose exist in the Golmore jungle and one of Garlemald's viceroys set their eyes on it? That would be a great excuse for male Viera to consider taking the fight to the Garleans for breaking their deal about leaving Golmore alone. Furthermore, Garlemald would want to retake Doma and what better route than the one through Golmore Jungle-Nagxia? Remember, we closed their airship route with the Seiryu wall.

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I don't think we need to put too much thought into why the men would appear. I mean it's fun to speculate on, by all means folks should go ahead and do it for fun but convincing lore shouldn't be the ultimate reason we see them.

Granted I am saying this because I main a male Moon Keeper; a very rare gender in a rare people who lorewise keep to themselves. And yet male Keepers (and Seekers for that matter) are playable. The WoL doesn't represent the general population.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's baffling that people see a thread with over 1800 likes and 1250 pages and pretend as though there's only a small amount of interest in what is being requested.

The echo chamber comments are tiresome, too, since anyone who bothers to even glance at the thread to any degree would see that although many of us want to see male viera added to the game this thread is the opposite of an echo chamber as the desire for what they should look like varies quite a bit.

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You know full well five people can make a thread go 50 pages here. This is no different.

OMG NOoooo.... WHY DIDN'T YOU LET IT DIE....

New races are too much work. They don't get 1/2 the gear or hair styles. I would take content over races.

https://ffxivcensus.com/#racegender
How many people really play Hrothgar and Viera.
How many of these player only play because they get to play Horthgar and Viera?

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Originally Posted by Kewitt

https://ffxivcensus.com/#racegender
How many people really play Hrothgar and Viera.
How many of these player only play because they get to play Horthgar and Viera?

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https://ffxivcensus.com/2016-11/
And here are the statistics for Au Ra in 2016, a year after they came out. As you can see, they follow the same trend as Viera. Low overall player count (due to being new) but high active player count. In fact, there are more active Viera players (around 59k) a year from their release than there were female Auri a year from their release (around 33k). Au Ra today have a higher active player count, but they have been out for longer. More people play Viera than you think.

Hrothgar even have a higher active player count (around 20k) than male Roegadyn (around 12k), despite being new and still one of the less popular player races.

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Originally Posted by Tabbs

https://ffxivcensus.com/2016-11/
And here are the statistics for Au Ra in 2016, a year after they came out. As you can see, they follow the same trend as Viera. Low overall player count (due to being new) but high active player count. In fact, there are more active Viera players (around 59k) a year from their release than there were female Auri a year from their release (around 33k). Au Ra have today have a higher active player count, but they have been out for longer. More people play Viera than you think.

Hrothgar even have a higher active player count (around 20k) than male Roegadyn (around 12k), despite being new and still one of the less popular player races.

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You didn't answer my Second question!!! which is unknowable really.