SUMMONER, WHAT WOULD YOU CHANGE OR ADD? (EVOLUTION & STAT ALLOCATION)

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

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Perhaps a compromise is in order then. Why not change how Enkindle works? The current Egi is removed from battle and SMN sacrifices 20% HP/MP to summon a more pronounced version of the Primal that uses it signature move, then returns to the void. Summoner will get a much needed burst damage attack while allowing the job to return to it's roots in the purest form. Since FFVII, summons have been wonderful eye candy and this would allow FFXIV not to be the exception.

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Originally Posted by Demeos

My favorite version of the Summoner would be from FFX. You summoned, you buggered off, then you took direct control of the summoned creature. This is what I think the summoner class should be in this game. Not a pet.

Scholar and Arcanist can stay pet-centric. They're fine for the most part.

The Pros:

- One less character to render on screen so you they could up the detail of the summoned egi.

- Direct control means less chance of having half your dps on the wrong enemy or a random ability doing something that's detrimental to the group.

- Fewer abilities being cast means fewer spell/ability effects on screen at one time.

The Cons:

- No longer a pet job. Could still use pets as an arcanist though.

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I support this idea only if my character gets to sit/stand upon the summon during combat. :D

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Originally Posted by Hvinire

We discussed your feedback about the design of the egi with the development team. As was mentioned previously during the Beta test, the design planner reiterated that egi were designed to be a manifestation of a percentage of power taken from the primals and are intentionally designed to appear differently from the primal. As such, we aren't planning on changing the look of egi at higher levels.

We will however continue to take in your feedback when creating new egi that will be added in the future.

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I don't care about the size of egi's but I do care about how the class was designed and I wanted a summoner not a warlock.

When will the devs understand people just want summons that dont look dumb? And maybe a Summoner class that revolves around summoning instead of being a copy-pasta of WoW Warlock?

I was just hoping for something similar to the way the avatars were in FFXI. They werent massive, and they were still a portion of the summon's power. Meh, whatever. D:

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Originally Posted by paradigmfellow

What about the stats? Will that change?

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Yeah, that's really more of an issue than the size and looks of the egi (even if the egi look creepy imo).
It's really inconvenient that the stats are shared...

And yes, I do think that egi is kind of a dumb name for the summons .... >_>;; but that's neither here nor there.

The only good thing Hvinire's response did is that now I know not to invest time in equipping my summoner past standard gear. The current gameplay is not something I want to stick around with because that is not something a summoner does. Again no hard feelings at the people who enjoy the current version of the summoner class but bottom line is: IT IS NOT A SUMMONER! It just baffles me that you couldn't care less about your pet as a summoner.

Maybe they should change the summoner class to evoker instead, its more fitting to how the class is at the moment as all we seem to be able to call upon is some little elemental looking monster then introduced summoner as the next class which you could then call on the full power of the primal. Although i wont hold my breath SE has gone completely down hill since it changed from Squaresoft.

I don't understand how most people hate the detail of the summons and SE says "Oh well". Id rather these guys have delayed the job to make the avatars look more like SCH and ACN. SMN look bad. No one likes them.

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Originally Posted by Ventus

Also I would like to see summoner be less of a warlock DoT class and more of a well....summoner.

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Well, you can see alot of meta classes in here, though they are a bit different in the mechanics.
I agree with what you say. The summoner should have more abilities concerning his pet or mechanics that make it viable to change the summons during the fight.
The Job's name does not really tell you what he actually does. Correct me if I am wrong, but I feel that way.