Stunbot is NOT fun

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Originally Posted by JonGordon

I one shot it almost every time.

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You can one shot Ifrit?

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Originally Posted by Nova_Dresden

I understand that, I still just don't understand the logic of Shield Bash. It has a pretty steep TP cost and is on the GCD. Brutal Swing for Warrior is off the GCD and free, but had a long cooldown. There's an unhealthy discrepancy there to me, and both of them should be fairly similar. There's only 2 tanking roles in the game, and both should have a similar cooldown. Either make shield bash similar to Brutal Swing (free, off GCD, cooldown) or make Brutal Swing like Shield Bash (TP cost, on GCD, no cooldown).

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Agreed. Also since Warrior is a tank, give him a shield. Also I've seen other players summon helpers, I want that too since they have that. And while were at it, I'll take a fairy.

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Originally Posted by TheGlow

You can one shot Ifrit?

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The phrase "one-shot" on bosses usually means they downed the boss on the first try with no failures. Fail once and it's two-shot, and so on.

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Originally Posted by TheGlow

Agreed. Also since Warrior is a tank, give him a shield. Also I've seen other players summon helpers, I want that too since they have that. And while were at it, I'll take a fairy.

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Nah, Warrior seems to mimic Death Knight in WoW. Lotta self-heals, good damage output, and uses 2-handed weapon. Giving them a shield also means giving them a one-handed weapon. And since weapons define class you gotta be specific about what weapon it is. It can't be a sword or a dagger because those are Gladiator/Paladin weapons. One-handed axe might work, but then it can't be used for any future classes added to the game (lotta people I know want BST to be added and that would probably be the weapon for them.)

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Originally Posted by ReiszRie

I could easily do so,

Phase 1 - Eruption after Dash, Eruption shortly after Vulcan
Phase 2 - Eruption after Radiant Plume (Exterior) Eruption after Radiant Plume (Interior) Eruption shortly after Infernal Nails spawns
Phase 3 - Eruption after Radiant Plume (Exterior) and (Interior) Eruption shortly after Radiant Plume (Entire Map)

Its rather simple once you've got the patterns down

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This ^

I am MTing and interrupting Ifrit the whole time, why waste another Tank spot in a premade group if I can take care of both...his pattern is super easy and all you have to do is hold off on your GCD abilities when you know Eruption is coming in the next 5seconds~

Phase 1 Eruption (first one) is easier to predict though if you see him using his flame breath and then the push back move. That's when he is gonna use Eruption for the very first time.

If somebody leaves the group because either you missed the stun, or it resisted. They can enjoy waiting in queue while you instantly get another group.

Having to stun eruptions can be fun while you're also the MT. ;)

Overall though I agree, a simple fix would be to just put it off the GCD and add a small CD to it.

I just tried Ifrit HM for the first time last night, and found that my biggest problem was accidentally interrupting plumes (which I did a few times). I'm now reading there there is an actual pattern, which nobody in the DF bothered telling me. Knowing this now will make the fight a lot easier. (I suspect nobody told me because they didn't actually know.)

Of course, I feel the OP's pain. I've tanked in multiple MMOs for years and the one thing I've gotten used to is DPS players in PUGs who simply want to be carried to free loot. You will run into these people unless you pre-form every time. They expect the tanks and healers to perform flawlessly so they can sit in one spot, spam their rotations (often incorrectly) and ignore as many fight mechanics as possible. This is all well and good, except when I'm trying to actually learn the encounter myself.

Admittedly, I've not raided so this might be incredibly dumb and I don't know, but at level 10 marauder gets a move called Brutal Swing which is an instant cast stun that's not on the GCD with a 30 second recast, so why not take a Warrior for it? If you want a PLD tank just make sure the warrior's not using Defiance, and they should be able to stun-bot easily and provide a little extra damage.

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Originally Posted by Zavokka

Admittedly, I've not raided so this might be incredibly dumb and I don't know, but at level 10 marauder gets a move called Brutal Swing which is an instant cast stun that's not on the GCD with a 30 second recast, so why not take a Warrior for it? If you want a PLD tank just make sure the warrior's not using Defiance, and they should be able to stun-bot easily and provide a little extra damage.

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You have to interrupt more often than every 30 sec. A rotation between multiple players would work, but that's more effort than letting a PLD stand there and auto-attack.

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Originally Posted by Prince_Myshkin

I Don't want to do the thing that helps my group succeed because i don't like doing it.

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About sum it up?

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Originally Posted by Kuvu

The problem with the ifriti fight is that you have to run so god damn many times. I am sick and tired of running it for a weapon that i never seen drop to just stun every time....... it is the most boring fight i have even been forced to do and if you want the weapon you are forced to do it.

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Your not forced to do it, you don't need the weapon you want the weapon, the level 50 GC weapon is only 1 or 2 points behind the Ifrit weapon so it is not needed. I completely understand the grind on this fight its an ascetic weapon getting it is actually an accomplishment because of the low drop rate and having to roll against others, my biggest complaint is that it should not drop weapons for classes that are not in the party because at that point nobody wins.