[dev1002] The entire world lacking as a battle environment.

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Originally Posted by Xzen

BRs are worthless. They need to come up with something better.

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How are they worthless? If you can manage an 8 man, its devastating..

I think what he means is, why waste time coordinating a BR when he can just mindlessly button mash for 30min until it rages and wipes the party. Then he will just get right up and try again. What you need to understand when arguing with someone like this is that they just simply DON'T get it, and never will. Performing the same action, over and over and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity, yet I see it all the time in this game as well as other games that a drunk mongoloid can not only survive in, but shamefully actually accomplish something in. We can try to pound the reasons upon them but they just turn a deaf ear like most of the younger generation is prone to. If its not handed to me, its not worth having.

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Originally Posted by Filtiarne

I think what he means is, why waste time coordinating a BR when he can just mindlessly button mash for 30min until it rages and wipes the party. Then he will just get right up and try again. What you need to understand when arguing with someone like this is that they just simply DON'T get it, and never will. Performing the same action, over and over and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity, yet I see it all the time in this game as well as other games that a drunk mongoloid can not only survive in, but shamefully actually accomplish something in. We can try to pound the reasons upon them but they just turn a deaf ear like most of the younger generation is prone to. If its not handed to me, its not worth having.

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My LS has no problems taking down any of the NMs. If you think you need BRs to take them down you probably haven't even fought one. I've also been around since UO launched playing MMOs. I made it clear that SE needs to either make the BRs better or give us something else. A personal attack just shows you have run out of any real points. I've even seen the people with no skill manage to make it to end game in FFXI. If you're as hardcore as you like to pretend why not just delete your character to perma-death it every time you die? By your logic you don't because you're a sissy that wants everything handed to them.

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Originally Posted by Xzen

My LS has no problems taking down any of the NMs. If you think you need BRs to take them down you probably haven't even fought one. I've also been around since UO launched playing MMOs. I made it clear that SE needs to either make the BRs better or give us something else. A personal attack just shows you have run out of any real points. I've even seen the people with no skill manage to make it to end game in FFXI. If you're as hardcore as you like to pretend why not just delete your character to perma-death it every time you die? By your logic you don't because you're a sissy that wants everything handed to them.

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Well, as far as i'm concerned, you've just exposed yourself. I've watched the linkshells on my servers that don't know / do Battle Regimens on NMs and it's sloppy and ineffecient, and half the time they rage unless they were in a full alliance of 16, all button mashing heavy attack for the 29 minute win. You've just validated everything we've been saying.
Everyone involved in this thread that was also killing the NMs in a timely manner (pre-nerf) with low numbers of people knows now exactly what kind of player you are. You have revealed yourself.

Darthtaru's story reminds me of when I first heard about FFXi, and when it came out, I actually didn't hear great things about it. (I honestly can't remember why though, it was so long ago). Being a FF fan, I wanted to play it but just didn't because of things I heard. However, many years later my current boyfriend showed me FFXI, he showed me all the areas, jobs, magic, summons, battles, and even with that probly still left out a lot. But when he showed me I was like "holy s*** what have I been missing all these years??" *sadface*

So with seeing FFXI, I wanted to try out FFXIV, and I agree that it's definitely not the same..although I do like FFXIV, since it's my first MMO I guess, I still feel like so much is missing from it. Thank you for posting this darthtaru

I laughed pretty hard at the no BR's during a NM fight comment. Someone should tell him that the new batch of NM's don't really count.

Been killing NMs since the day they were put in game. We also don't get anywhere close to 30 min rage timer. We even low manned the NMs before the nerf with little effort.

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Originally Posted by DarthTaru

Well, as far as i'm concerned, you've just exposed yourself. I've watched the linkshells on my servers that don't know / do Battle Regimens on NMs and it's sloppy and ineffecient, and half the time they rage unless they were in a full alliance of 16, all button mashing heavy attack for the 29 minute win. You've just validated everything we've been saying.
Everyone involved in this thread that was also killing the NMs in a timely manner (pre-nerf) with low numbers of people knows now exactly what kind of player you are. You have revealed yourself.

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The NMs are pathetic even pre-nerf with 8 people. Now that they have been "rebalanced" for 8 person parties they are even easier. Again the personal attacks are all straw man tactics.

As in, the #2 ranked Marauder on Fabul? That kind of person?

Again degenerating to personal attacks just shows social ineptness and that's all. Why don't you actually provide some information to try and prove a point on the subject? Or better yet since we seem to be on the subject why not provide some hard numbers to back your claim that the BRs add to the overall DPS even with the time it takes to get everyones skills queued up as compared to using your attacks and abilities without that time you stood there doing nothing while people queue up?