[Dev 1011] Failing Guildleves Intentionally?

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Originally Posted by solracht

Doesn't count if this was before rank 24, btw. Not being rude or anything but experience point values are really inflated before then. Past 24, you reach the normal game.

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Still though, I grinded after R24 with antlings and they still netted you good sp gains.. Just no one goes out to grind after r30, especially since NO ONE is at camps unless it's a LS doing leve fails

I didn't mean to go off topic here but I got a little heated because tou started directing inflammatory comments to me. When you tell someone he doesn't know what he's talking about it's inviting them to come back. Sorry about derail.

I do hope that someone from SE community team see's this thread and forwards it to the dev team because there are alot of really good ideas here (especially Alexia's) that can make the leve system alot better and remove the "need" to fail leves to get the most SP possible.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

Still though, I grinded after R24 with antlings and they still netted you good sp gains.. Just no one goes out to grind after r30, especially since NO ONE is at camps unless it's a LS doing leve fails

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it is true that no one grinds before raptors really anymore

but if you are a pure combat class...theres no reason to not try to do it in between leves

I still think you are speaking out of ignorance.

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Originally Posted by TheVedis

it is true that no one grinds before raptors really anymore

but if you are a pure combat class...theres no reason to not try to do it in between leves

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I don't know, it's just different now that no one plays anymore and sp/levefails changes were made. we just have to see where this goes after the big patch

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Originally Posted by tou

I still think you are speaking out of ignorance.

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ignoring the fact of a mmo was to grind your way to high level... no the only thing i'm ignoring is the fact that i don't like these boring leves as the only way to rank up

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Originally Posted by Jibe

I didn't mean to go off topic here but I got a little heated because tou started directing inflammatory comments to me. When you tell someone he doesn't know what he's talking about it's inviting them to come back. Sorry about derail.

I do hope that someone from SE community team see's this thread and forwards it to the dev team because there are alot of really good ideas here (especially Alexia's) that can make the leve system alot better and remove the "need" to fail leves to get the most SP possible.

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I think you would be hard pressed to find someone that wouldn't prefer a better method then the leve failing especially when you are wanting to build faction points for NM leves

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

I don't know, it's just different now that no one plays anymore and sp/levefails changes were made. we just have to see where this goes after the big patch

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Grinding used to be better than leves back in sept/oct. Then they boosted leve SP with links and nerfed grind SP. You used to net about 400-500~ sp a kill when grinding, now you only get 150-200. Totally a waste of time.

why do people still listen to Kilta? he plays FFXIV with a godamn youtube.

This shit wouldnt happen if SE let us pick which leves we wants to do instead of it being randomly appears at the counter. Also, while this might not be an intentional by the devs, it is not something they can quick-fix right now.. if they doesnt let us retry when we fail a leves, we will just wait for another /rage thread.

People has been doing this for long and devs team DO KNOWS we are doing this because they fixed Levinshower (Necrologs) bugs.

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Originally Posted by DeadRiser

ignoring the fact of a mmo was to grind your way to high level... no the only thing i'm ignoring is the fact that i don't like these boring leves as the only way to rank up

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the whole point is to get grinding to be a better option, if you take the stance of its already a good option then you are only hurting any chance to make it better especially since it is currently a crappy option.