The Downfall of 2.0

Hopefully, 2.0 will have plenty of Awesome, like so.

http://static2.finalfantasyxiv.com/a...UZ69R2rmfs.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ingolf

You seem to have fallen hook line and sinker.

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When you trolled me for trollin' a troill. I heard you were falling for me falling for being trolled by someone who was allegedly (by me) trollin' who probably maybe wasn't actually trollin' at all probably. It's all good though because I'm not falling for the trollin' put in place by that WoW sig, because I know you're maybe probably possibly tryin' to be trollin me to the max with that. It's just to much heat and I can't handle it. Them trolls is over is 9000 right there. Troly moly...

This might sound extreme, but I think the mods should outright delete posts that say little more than "this game is going to fail". That's not constructive criticism at all. That's just discouragement. Yoshi-P and his team are working really hard, and I'm sure they're open to criticism, but simply telling the world you think the game is going to fail without giving any feasible suggestion isn't going to help them. It only serves to piss off fans like me that are looking forward to it and want it to succeed.

I really need to stop looking at the forums. For every meaningful thread there are 10 more meaningless complaints.

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Originally Posted by Yrusama

This might sound extreme, but I think the mods should outright delete posts that say little more than "this game is going to fail". That's not constructive criticism at all. That's just discouragement. Yoshi-P and his team are working really hard, and I'm sure they're open to criticism, but simply telling the world you think the game is going to fail without giving any feasible suggestion isn't going to help them. It only serves to piss off fans like me that are looking forward to it and want it to succeed.

I really need to stop looking at the forums. For every meaningful thread there are 10 more meaningless complaints.

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it's probably cause they are tired of repeating themselves to the point they just say something that short and sweet. i'm kinda tired of sayign the same things on every mmo that comes out. they suck, they keep sucking and they will keep failing. and rather then making them better they will just make them even worse to make up for the failing and just keep going for quick buck b4 the fall. they worked hard to create another pointless casual mmo and most likely by the end of another year i wouldn't be surprised if there was only 1 server left worth of players. hope not, but i can put a nickle on it.

by the way, there is what 100k people playign the game now? probably like 1000tops that even come to the forums and read, i wouldn't be surprised that majority are workers of SE, rivals, rmt or someone who gets something out of it. so if all of them are pointless ...who the heck is writing the meaningful garbage most don't' agree with anyway.

Real downfall will be lack of innovation and interesting features. New article on MMORPG.com with funny comments:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ark-Horse.html

If they wiped my data I would quit playing. End of story.

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

Real downfall will be lack of innovation and interesting features. New article on MMORPG.com with funny comments:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ark-Horse.html

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Decent article, then they had to fuck it up by saying P2P is a problem lol. High quality F2P MMOs won't ever exist, not even GW2 is completely free, if you wanna save yourself a lot of headaches you will be dumping more money into it than a P2P Model MMO.

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Originally Posted by Hysterior

wrong, downfall is because of the grass, THE GRASS!

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Sure, blame the grass! It was really the dirt, with the saxophone, in the kitchen.

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Originally Posted by Punainen

If they wiped my data I would quit playing. End of story.

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They wouldn't do that, you know why? We pay for their air-conditioning bill. They working that data transfer to keep us happy and I have to try to imagine how hot those machines are.

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Originally Posted by bobbygunz

Real downfall will be lack of innovation and interesting features. New article on MMORPG.com with funny comments:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/g...ark-Horse.html

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their argument against ARR is to compare it to WAR, RIFT and GW2?

lollllllll NEXT

as far as f2p vs. p2p, people saying p2p is dying is ridiculous. WoW is a statistical outlier in the p2p market, and maple story is a statistical outlier in the f2p market. keeping that in mind, a quick look at the numbers on mmodata.net shows us that, miraculously, p2p is still doing *more than fine*

and in fact, the average top-end p2p MMO has more active users than the average top-end f2p MMO.

GW2 was supposed to be the revolutionary f2p nail in the coffin for p2p, and it only sold 2-3 million units and has already lost at least half its players. how in the world is this any argument against p2p?




p.s. can anyone show me a f2p MMO with a deep, challenging and involving pve endgame? thought so. f2p is fine if all you want to cater to is the casual demographic. but you certainly won't be keeping many hardcores or midcores.