Auction House vs Wards

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Originally Posted by Xerius

Here's how I see it. 90% of people are going to switch over to the AH when it comes in just because it's infinitely more convenient but the AH will have limits I'm sure just like it did in XI. That's where there MW come in. It acts like a second bazaar if you can't find something in the AH check the MW. Lastly, the MW retainers add extra storage into the game. So, that's a really nice feature imo. If people want to stay in the MWs, let them. They're probably going to be the second choice for most players though so that's something to keep in mind.

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I'm too tired to think of a great way they can implement the ward system, but none of the posts have given me a good enough reason to remotely entertain keeping it. I'm gonna chalk this up as Retarded Idea #1, followed by Gear Sets IF they require "multiple items"... that'd be Retarded Idea #2.

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The buying process does not work fine. Unless your definition of fine is going through every single ward looking for a good meld or even the right Materia.

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The buying process absolutely works fine. Search for an item > Type in item name or search by category > Buy item if any are for sale.

Going to the ward with the retainer is optional, and serves two purposes: Save the search fee, and possibly see what else the same person might be selling.. Please don't tell me you've been shopping manually in spite of the search feature all this time?

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Personally I'm sitting on the highest potency IV materias simply because it is too much of a paint to go ward by ward to doa price comparison.

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uhm... you might try looking at the sale history to see what people have paid recently as well as the sale list to see what people are currently selling for?

AH as main market system.

MW as Rolanberry fields bazaars.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

I'm too tired to think of a great way they can implement the ward system, but none of the posts have given me a good enough reason to remotely entertain keeping it. I'm gonna chalk this up as Retarded Idea #1, followed by Gear Sets IF they require "multiple items"... that'd be Retarded Idea #2.

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The closest thing I've got is anonymity but that was shot down almost immediately when they brought up mules in the very next post.

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Originally Posted by Arkine

AH as main market system.

MW as Rolanberry fields bazaars.

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MW as main market system. MW has all the features of an auction house plus more. It just needs efficiency improvements. Clearly nobody complaining about the MWs have ever used the search interface, because that pretty much works the same as any auction house.
Listing stuff for sale however does need to become a lot simpler. All they have to do is address that and it will be a fine system.

Nothing as rolanberry fields bazaars, because that sucks even more than the MW.

This debate has become so silly because people just scream "AH! I WANT AH!" without really being analytical of the situation at all or realizing just how close the two systems really are at the present time.
hell, most people don't even seem to realize XIV's system lets you search for items by name, where FFXI only had the category search.

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Here's how I see it. 90% of people are going to switch over to the AH when it comes in

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AHes are not coming in. Improvements to the market wards, which are already very much like an AH, are what's coming in.

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Originally Posted by Xerius

The closest thing I've got is anonymity but that was shot down almost immediately when they brought up mules in the very next post.

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Haha that was me, and yeah I agree the anonymity is great. With mail system muling will probably become popular for those who can afford it, $3 extra/mo?

I mean if they wanna make the item market a more unique experience I think there are many different ways to go about it. How about the Qirqin (sp) are all about "clank clank" I don't see why they couldn't implement a market system around them or something. Ya know? utilize some story behind it..

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Originally Posted by Alhanelem

AHes are not coming in. Improvements to the market wards, which are already very much like an AH, are what's coming in.

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I see. Well, I guess there's really no point in complaining then. I was under a false assumption that there would be an AH.

Although, I would like it if people would get off the "this isn't FFXI, go back to your own game" band-wagon. FFXI was a very successful mmo in it's own right. I see nothing wrong with FFXIV borrowing many of it's core ideas but centered around a different story. Now more than ever considering they're adding elements from a lot of the other Final Fantasies.

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Originally Posted by Mujen

Haha that was me, and yeah I agree the anonymity is great. With mail system muling will probably become popular for those who can afford it, $3 extra/mo?

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This is a good point. But anyone with Legacy (unlike me, missed it by a week /pout) will be able to get 2 characters for the price of one. Not trying making an argument, just shining light on an option a lot of people will have.

Just do a poll for the love of god if hundreds of threads and polls on the net haven't given you SE a clue what the public wants.

Also every single review of XIV ever went to great lengths to ridicule the MW system as onee of the biggest flaws in the game. So you might want to think abou maybe?!


Also get some non-legacy players in your alpha and beta!!!!!
I'm legacy but looking at how some people have no critical opinion whatsoever of your product makes me think that old players shouldn't be trusted too much. Just make a good game.

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Originally Posted by Seif

Just do a poll for the love of god if hundreds of threads and polls on the net haven't given you SE a clue what the public wants.

Also every single review of XIV ever went to great lengths to ridicule the MW system as onee of the biggest flaws in the game. So you might want to think abou maybe?!


Also get some non-legacy players in your alpha and beta!!!!!
I'm legacy but looking at how some people have no critical opinion whatsoever of your product makes me think that old players shouldn't be trusted too much. Just make a good game.

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There's enough common-sense here to kill a dozen men. O_o the forums need more of this!