How is this allowed?

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Originally Posted by NaoSen

When you watch the video they made which Square Enix copyright struck their channel for its no surprise why. I am glad they linked it in the description

SE definately dont want people seeing what their game has become.

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Too bad they can change that immediately by actually making the game good.

Oh what's that that's too many resources and we don't have any vision? Well forget about it then! We'll just keep pumping out slop and rely on the ERP Second Lifers for our income lmao

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Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath

for one I would love real life night clubs but wait a second those dumb parents have destroyed those irl using the same arguments, and there like maybe maybe 30 left in the ENTIRE WORLD lol

ALSO ITS AN RPG so ya it 100% is in the games core lol its a roleplaying game, its not like your playing a game like wow or diablo, or starcraft or path of exile where the game is combat mainly and some story lol its a ROLEPLAY game that happans to be massive multiple player lol


Want real game play literaly even minecraft is more of a game game than ff is lol, go play elder scrolls or wow, or path of exile or any REAL GAME GAME and not one that has always been primarly a ROLEPLAY

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I hate to tell you, but you are 100% wrong. It is mostly combat focused. That is the game's core. There is no way to progress in the game without interacting with the combat system. You probably still mistake this as some kind of second life game or something.
The role playing refers to the gaming genre. It means you develop your character by upgrading the level or gear or stats. It doesnt really mean "role playing" like pretending to be something or someone else.
That roleplay stuff you mean has never been popular. Only since i would say around shadowbringers these people started popping up. Sure there were some before. Probably even during ARR but it was a very small part of the community.

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

I hate to tell you, but you are 100% wrong. It is mostly combat focused. That is the game's core.

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Sure but when your combat is so stale and you haven't innovated on that front for a decade maybe you shouldn't be surprised when the people who enjoy video game gameplay all quit while the ERP clubbers hop in and become the main demographic.

But sure, keep lamenting that the FF14 playerbase is full of 18+ clubs while unironically thinking that the game's core is any good to people who actually want to play a video game. I'll let you deal with that cognitive dissonance.

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

I hate to tell you, but you are 100% wrong. It is mostly combat focused. That is the game's core. There is no way to progress in the game without interacting with the combat system. You probably still mistake this as some kind of second life game or something.
The role playing refers to the gaming genre. It means you develop your character by upgrading the level or gear or stats. It doesnt really mean "role playing" like pretending to be something or someone else.
That roleplay stuff you mean has never been popular. Only since i would say around shadowbringers these people started popping up. Sure there were some before. Probably even during ARR but it was a very small part of the community.

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Having combat to progress doesn't mean its combat focused if it was jobs would more complex harder to play and HAVE ALOT MORE ABILITYS, and there would be more to do with combat than just sleeping your way through it on auto pilot for 90% of the game,

as for that remark thats false, most of these rpgs are and have taken aspects of DND and as for your popular thats also DND/baulder gate and many of these others are what lead to the popularity in games like ff and rpgs as hole, when people want an actrual combat game they will just play something that has combat THAT IS FUN lol, games like this wouldn't exist if it wasnt for ROLEPLAYERS lol

as for your remark Want some examples in ff terms in final fantasy 7 you legit have to crossdress cloud go into a sex club that (legit has bdsm items in the background ) to rescue a character, and there multiple other things in ff that show how sexual the game series as a hole is I mean there are even some monsters that Lore wise only go after females lol

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Originally Posted by Red-thunder

Sure but when your combat is so stale and you haven't innovated on that front for a decade maybe you shouldn't be surprised when the people who enjoy video game gameplay all quit while the ERP clubbers hop in and become the main demographic.

But sure, keep lamenting that the FF14 playerbase is full of 18+ clubs while unironically thinking that the game's core is any good to people who actually want to play a video game. I'll let you deal with that cognitive dissonance.

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Did i say combat was good? xD still you are forced to interact with it.

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

Did i say combat was good? xD still you are forced to interact with it.

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not really you dont have to interact with you; can legit fly by watching netflix hitting the same 12 buttons on a set muscle memory pattern paying no attention and do max dps and clear things easily lol

and that is 90% of the game braindead watdching netflix hitting 5-12 buttons on a set pattern of muscle memory and only 10% of the game do you have to pay attention to combat at all and thats all optional content lol

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

Did i say combat was good? xD still you are forced to interact with it.

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If you agree then you can see why FF14 is now an ERP game. If people want this problem to be gone maybe they should hold the game's combat content to a certain standard and not just excuse the slop. Because that's the ultimate source of the issue. While you may agree with that OP clearly doesn't and I don't know if he realizes or not that there's a reason the ERP clubbing scene took hold, and it's not just because of COVID (it didn't happen in many other MMOs did it?)

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Originally Posted by Daughterofdeath

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Having combat to progress doesn't mean its combat focused if it was jobs would more complex harder to play and HAVE ALOT MORE ABILITYS, and there would be more to do with combat than just sleeping your way through it on auto pilot for 90% of the game,

as for that remark thats false, most of these rpgs are and have taken aspects of DND and as for your popular thats also DND/baulder gate and many of these others are what lead to the popularity in games like ff and rpgs as hole, when people want an actrual combat game they will just play something that has combat THAT IS FUN lol, games like this wouldn't exist if it wasnt for ROLEPLAYERS lol

as for your remark Want some examples in ff terms in final fantasy 7 you legit have to crossdress cloud go into a sex club that (legit has bdsm items in the background ) to rescue a character, and there multiple other things in ff that show how sexual the game series as a hole is I mean there are even some monsters that Lore wise only go after females lol

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Even if you sleep through 90% of content it is still combat focused. Just doing the dailies is mainly combat and maybe some crafting. Also i play diablo and i played wow. And yes i do compare them to FF. They belong to the same genre. Wow is as combat focused as FF, so is guild wars 2 or diablo. Imagine this game had no combat at all lol. No one would play it. It wouldnt have become as popular. Roleplaying wouldnt have accomplished this.

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Originally Posted by Red-thunder

This is hilarious considering the actual good raiders, people who enjoy gameplay and not scripted piano recitals, mostly all quit since ShB.

If you think raiders are eating good when you can clear the first tier on week 1 with 5 deaths and not even see enrage you're high.

But I guess ShB baby raiders have only ever known slop and will eat good with whatever garbage SE throws out.

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And this comes from someone without ex, savage or ultimate clears?
Ive started playing a long time before ShB but ok.
The 1. Raidtier has always been easy since Stormblood. Always a pushover in terms of DPS Checks. The 2. Raidtier on the other Hand was always somewhat challenging when it comes to DPS Chekcs. Look Brute Justice, Kefka Doorboss, Shiva and P8. The first Raidtier is meant to be easy DPS-Checkwise to give players the time to learn and get used to new Jobs and Rotationchanges. Otherwise we would get another A3 Staticbreaker incident.
But please ask all the PLD Mains if raiding in HW was so much better. Ask all the WHM Mains in early Stormblood if eating most Tankbusters after Almagest was fun to deal with. But everything back then was so much better , right?

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

Even if you sleep through 90% of content it is still combat focused. Just doing the dailies is mainly combat and maybe some crafting. Also i play diablo and i played wow. And yes i do compare them to FF. They belong to the same genre. Wow is as combat focused as FF, so is guild wars 2 or diablo. Imagine this game had no combat at all lol. No one would play it. It wouldnt have become as popular. Roleplaying wouldnt have accomplished this.

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most people playing this game isnt playing it for the combat, in fact few people would even mind if they removed combat completely with how poorly its designed, and thats false WOW is combat 24/7 open world pvp and battle constantly and diablo well diablo is just pure combat (which isnt in the same genre lol)

People do combat yes but very few people care about combat in the game they only do it as a means to end to get that sexy glamour piece to rp with or stand around limsa with lol


the could 100% turn this game into palia with the only combat being going and hunting animals and noone would care very few people would even mind it lol

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Originally Posted by Kishin12345

Are you sure we play the same game? xD

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your not paying much attention to how combat differes, look if in this game items effect pvp, and we had open world pvp and twinking out a job to do max potential its not combat focused, if your not going out there farming god tier items to pop out MASSIVE DAMAGE NUMBERS or transform yourself into a walking god thats untouchable its not combat focused, all it is is glorifed combat to just get things done to get x y z item to show up and brag about lol


this isnt like diablo or path of exile were u can go out and farm for an item and enchantments and runes to make your "summon ifirit" 15 levels higher than the max, or getting enchantments that makes you nearly untouchable for the sake of being godly in combat lol


for a game to be combat focuse COMBAT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING ,when you gain power there has to be purpose behind it, which this game has never had even in arr pre HW there was no purpose for getting BIS and max melded because when you synced down it takes all that power away, and YOU CANT EVEN USE THAT POWER PVPLY, The game has no real purpose to gain power to fight with, and that is why it has never been combat focused or ever will be..

your only getting this max power to say you had for a pretty archivement and a title and maybe a mount to feel good about a meaningless archivement, your not gain power to use power in combat your gaining power for an outfit..


and i dont want to go all weeby but..

https://youtu.be/8eaYwI3A3oU