Reverse WoW exodus

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

Camping nms back in the day might have been "boring" and not fun but at least the community and making new friends and talking to people is what made things fun and made the wait more tolerable then it would be if we had a similar system in ff14 where no one really seems to want to talk unless your in a discord call or server because no one wants to use in game chat in games anymore.

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Well I can't speak for your experience but that hasn't been my experience with the game at any point. I can arrive at any populated area right now and start chatting with people and making friends. It's not difficult.

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Originally Posted by CidHeiral

Well I can't speak for your experience but that hasn't been my experience with the game at any point. I can arrive at any populated area right now and start chatting with people and making friends. It's not difficult.

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From my 11 years of playing ff14 no one seems to want to talk or be social unless it's the rp community or it at least seems to have been that way when discord became the norm to talk. Before discord became a thing people would always talk in game and have random conversations which don't seem to happen anymore unless I'm just unlucky.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

From my 11 years of playing ff14 no one seems to want to talk or be social unless it's the rp community or it at least seems to have been that way when discord became the norm to talk. Before discord became a thing people would always talk in game and have random conversations which don't seem to happen anymore unless I'm just unlucky.

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nah i had a lot of talking earlier but then suddenly square adjusted the tos so that you can report everybody who is hurt your feefees with a simple hay whats up...After this many people told me in private they will never write in the in game chat again. I cant say if it speaks for everybody but i does for me since i got in GM jail for explaining how a tank swap works

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Originally Posted by Dante131

nah i had a lot of talking earlier but then suddenly square adjusted the tos so that you can report everybody who is hurt your feefees with a simple hay whats up...After this many people told me in private they will never write in the in game chat again. I cant say if it speaks for everybody but i does for me since i got in GM jail for explaining how a tank swap works

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I use to have a lot on ingame interactions then in stormblood it seemed to have started dying down but just assumed it was either tos changes so people only talked in discord or various other reasons.

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Originally Posted by Nebelheim

I use to have a lot on ingame interactions then in stormblood it seemed to have started dying down but just assumed it was either tos changes so people only talked in discord or various other reasons.

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yeah i mean its just a guess. i think everyone have their reasons not to talk ingame but its a bit sad that really noone is writing anything. Rarely some explain a boss or something but i can understand everyone who just follow the wise advice of never write in the chat if you want to keep your account. This is on SE for the tos and peeps in the community who "abuse" it

Inshallah Blizzard will never get another cent from me, what they did to Arthas in Shadowlands was unforgivable.

Or you can just play WoW without trying to get people to mass exit FFXIV. It's okay to not like the current expansion. It's okay to like WoW. It's not okay to come to the forums to try to get people to mass exit. That's just bad form. If people want to leave, they can leave. That's it, it's not that deep.

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Originally Posted by Lazariah

Or you can just play WoW without trying to get people to mass exit FFXIV. It's okay to not like the current expansion. It's okay to like WoW. It's not okay to come to the forums to try to get people to mass exit. That's just bad form. If people want to leave, they can leave. That's it, it's not that deep.

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Yeah, people shouldnt *try* to get others to leave the game. They should all just play what they enjoy. But it's okay to talk about it when we do.

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Originally Posted by Wildheaven182

Yeah, people shouldnt *try* to get others to leave the game. They should all just play what they enjoy. But it's okay to talk about it when we do.

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I mean it's fine to talk constructive criticism. To talk about why you're leaving is useful. But the person who started this thread isn't that.

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Originally Posted by Lazariah

Or you can just play WoW without trying to get people to mass exit FFXIV. It's okay to not like the current expansion. It's okay to like WoW. It's not okay to come to the forums to try to get people to mass exit. That's just bad form. If people want to leave, they can leave. That's it, it's not that deep.

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But doesn't Naoki Yoshida want that? He said we should play other games. And given the state of Final Fantasy XIV, it seems odd that people would intentionally disobey the director if his advice solves the problems that we're facing. According to Yoshida, it's not a "mass exodus", it's "respecting your time", and I think that Dawntrial is the expansion that's most respectful of our time because it encourages us to go play other games.

Besides, isn't this whole "loyalty" thing what Blizzard does? And you hate Blizzard, right?