Will Dawntrail Surprise Us With A Major LGBTQ+ Character In The MSQ

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

its all just a reference to ff8. there is no romantic relationship ever, not even implied. theyre just friends.... god why would the devs introduce mitron just to do that to him... why do the supposed fans of gaia not even respect that mitron was her lover and think shed literally just jump right down rynes throat the minute mirton died.. i just cant even get my head round this..

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Gaia isn't Lohgrif, though. She explicitly rejects Loghrif's memories when Mitron tries to force them on her. Being a reincarnation doesn't make them the same person, just like Fandaniel isn't Hermes and the Warrior of Light isn't Azem.

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Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk

Gaia isn't Lohgrif, though. She explicitly rejects Loghrif's memories when Mitron tries to force them on her. Being a reincarnation doesn't make them the same person, just like Fandaniel isn't Hermes and the Warrior of Light isn't Azem.

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"The warrior of light isn't azem" I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding here. While in memory he, logrig and amon do not remember there past lives, they Are still those people. Back in she a short story was published on the lodestone about emet azem and lahabrae, where the wol demands to save indigenous peoples over grapes, in ew this line is quoted by your character in a side quest "id stop a volcano for those grapes" amon rejected his past self by constantly trying to prove to him that meteons answer was correct, but in the aitascope he admits he was allways trying to find the answer his past self couldn't let go of. While logrif/gaia does not embrace her ascian self she Does not discard mitron as her lover and especially not for ryne. During e12s when mitron dies gaia is distraught over it before she regains her memories. She also bids farewell to mitron hoping they'll meet in the next life.

There is just nothing there... I cannot debunk it any further, at this point people are huffing that copium for a ship that is supported by literally having biscuits together and a crystal that's supposed to rainbow coloured.

Aah, so the likely true reason you were so vocally against people 'shipping' Ryne and Gaia comes out. If the shit Mitron pulled during Eden seemed okay to you (not to mention the absurd age difference at play), then I don't know what to tell you...

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Originally Posted by Tsiron

Aah, so the likely true reason you were so vocally against people 'shipping' Ryne and Gaia comes out. If the shit Mitron pulled during Eden seemed okay to you (not to mention the absurd age difference at play), then I don't know what to tell you...

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Hmm? I'm not sure what you're implieng. I just think the foundation for the ship is weaker than a demolished building. I've allways said this. I don't ship gaia and mitron.. I mean for one he's dead... thats not even gona be rewarding. But I just see those 2 as being for each other. I doubt gaia would find love in her current life or even want it... People have better things to do in life than allways pay off a romantic interest

Why is this crap thread still up?

Christ these forums need mods.

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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

its all just a reference to ff8. there is no romantic relationship ever, not even implied. theyre just friends.... god why would the devs introduce mitron just to do that to him... why do the supposed fans of gaia not even respect that mitron was her lover and think shed literally just jump right down rynes throat the minute mirton died.. i just cant even get my head round this....

people keep using this rainbow crystal as some kind proof its LGBTQ! but heres the thing.. its not... the colour of the crystal represents the aetherial aspects infused within eden, the first sineater. inside his body ( eden) id all 6 elemental aspects, there are places in game (matoyas relict, mothercrystal) where we see infused aether and rainbow is what you get. this isnt some LGBTQ moment, this was a perfectly explainable story element. i just hate this ship so much because it its so dissrectful to ryne, gaia, mitro and honestly.. the devs.. whatever age ryne may have been changed to back in shb the nude mods ppl were makingof her were enough to get s.e in very hot water regarding child s.e. so in my books, shes a minor, so is gaia, theyre friends. im sorry?

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I think it's pretty obvious Ryne and Gaia are in Love with Each Other :p

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Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf

I think it's pretty obvious Ryne and Gaia are in Love with Each Other :p

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Debatable, citizen. I would need to see more proof of this.




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Originally Posted by sindriiisgaming

"The warrior of light isn't azem" I feel like this is a fundamental misunderstanding here. While in memory he, logrig and amon do not remember there past lives, they Are still those people. Back in she a short story was published on the lodestone about emet azem and lahabrae, where the wol demands to save indigenous peoples over grapes, in ew this line is quoted by your character in a side quest "id stop a volcano for those grapes"

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Side quest reply options play with the fourth wall all the time. (My favorite is from one of the first unlock quests for the Nier raids where the WoL just straight out says that it doesn't actually matter how they reply.) Calling that proof of anything is a massive stretch, especially given the English localization team's well-known love of slipping jokes and references into dialogue.

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amon rejected his past self by constantly trying to prove to him that meteons answer was correct, but in the aitascope he admits he was allways trying to find the answer his past self couldn't let go of.

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Hermes' memory of Meteion's answer was wiped at the end of Ktisis Hyperboreia. He didn't remember it until after dying and rejoining the lifestream (where we later see that Emet-Selch and Hythlodaeus also regained their memory of the WoL's visit to Elpis). Amon's rejection of his past self was because he spoke to the resurrected Xande, found out there was nothing after death, and had a mental breakdown.

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While logrif/gaia does not embrace her ascian self she Does not discard mitron as her lover and especially not for ryne. During e12s when mitron dies gaia is distraught over it before she regains her memories. She also bids farewell to mitron hoping they'll meet in the next life.

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Savage isn't canon. Check the duty description, it's clearly stated to be, in Eden's case, "distorted memories of your recent encounters".

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Originally Posted by WeebPolice

Debatable, citizen. I would need to see more proof of this.




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The Rainbow Crystal says it all :p

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Originally Posted by Sea-Wolf

The Rainbow Crystal says it all :p

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Nonsense, citizen. We have no idea if the rainbow is even a symbol for the LGBTQ movement in Eorzea. It could mean something else. Perhaps it's a symbol for war in their culture.




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