Should the devs appologise to the community

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Real question, did something happen over the last couple days that I missed? Or are people still just (rightfully) upset about this expansion being lackluster?

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I think it's because of Zepla's (and other content creators) video and all the commotion around it. Or maybe both reasons.

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Originally Posted by MuraBoy

I think it's because of Zepla's (and other content creators) video and all the commotion around it. Or maybe both reasons.

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Same as usual then. For the record, I agree with Zepla and similar, expansion sucks.

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Originally Posted by Rolder50

Real question, did something happen over the last couple days that I missed? Or are people still just (rightfully) upset about this expansion being lackluster?

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It's due to Yoshi-P's recent interviews, which can be found here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...amer-Interview

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...rviews-pre-6.5

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's due to Yoshi-P's recent interviews, which can be found here:

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...amer-Interview

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/...rviews-pre-6.5

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Yeah that’s the thing, a lot of us were hoping there would be some sign of changes in Dawntrail and these recent interviews have totally destroyed any semblance of hope we’ve been holding onto. I think I’m still really trying to process how out of touch this is all becoming, it’s eerily similar to what happened in FFXI during Abyssea/SoA with completely making relics irrelevant with the delve drops being equal to or in most cases better.

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Originally Posted by Blossoming

Yeah that’s the thing, a lot of us were hoping there would be some sign of changes in Dawntrail and these recent interviews have totally destroyed any semblance of hope we’ve been holding onto. I think I’m still really trying to process how out of touch this is all becoming, it’s eerily similar to what happened in FFXI during Abyssea/SoA with completely making relics irrelevant with the delve drops being equal to or in most cases better.

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At this point, the only real "hope" is the next two fanfests actually offering some degree of substance. I'm curious if Exploratory content will actually be confirmed because if it's still "we're looking into it." Well, we can probably rule that out to 8.0.

Otherwise, yeah. None of these interviewers were exactly inspiring any confidence in the direction XIV is going.

Idk from reading it all there's some interesting choices going forward. I can't call it all 100% good but it des make it clear they have in fact heard feedback (contrary to what some here will claim) and that's being taken into consideration such as alliance rewards for time for example. I'm not seeing all the doom and gloom from anything that's been said. I do think the dude is trying his best to valance the game and keep everyone happy for the most part. He's succeeded in some ways and failed in others. If anything it's nice to see the reasoning for the direction. DT will be interesting to see with what they've learned so far

Should the forums appologise to the devs

Please try to leave constructive replies instead of just saying anything to be heard
I've been toying with this question in my mind basically since around 6.0 when it became obvious this forum was'nt going to deliver any real of meaningful feedback.. seeing the clear nature of the doomposts and the exploitation in the forum's current doompost output vs what they develop for, anbd ofcourse that 7.0 will be a min of 6posts between minutes of basically... nothing...

should the comunity appologise for the state of the forums?

and if not... what level of accountability SHOULD they hold us to? if any..

(ofcourse this is just a question i am not demanding this or that people do this so please read it properly before you start attacking me)

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Originally Posted by DiaDeem

Should the forums appologise to the devs

Please try to leave constructive replies instead of just saying anything to be heard
I've been toying with this question in my mind basically since around 6.0 when it became obvious this forum was'nt going to deliver any real of meaningful feedback.. seeing the clear nature of the doomposts and the exploitation in the forum's current doompost output vs what they develop for, anbd ofcourse that 7.0 will be a min of 6posts between minutes of basically... nothing...

should the comunity appologise for the state of the forums?

and if not... what level of accountability SHOULD they hold us to? if any..

(ofcourse this is just a question i am not demanding this or that people do this so please read it properly before you start attacking me)

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No, I don't believe so because:

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's the official site so it's entirely under their control so I think any problems are at least in part due to their own making. To say nothing of the fact that many of us have frequently requested community representatives to come here to help engage with the community and clean things up somewhat.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

My post was highlighting that the concerns are being raised precisely because of the lack of content with staying power. The development team deliberately chose to cut out content with staying power and provided no equivalent to make up for that, so to try and present concerns about there being very little to do in the game as a player caught up on the latest batch of MSQ's strikes me as rather disingenuous.

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How do you know they didn't expect that Variant/Criterion and Deep Dungeon and Island Sanctuary would provide that staying power? That's my problem with the way you're putting this. You're putting intent on the developers when you have no proof of what their intent or thinking was. The choice they made was not having an exploratory zone. That doesn't immediately mean they weren't trying to give players something that would last.