Breaking down some of the screenshots

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Originally Posted by Croy

As others have mentioned their production work station is designed to show stuff off at only standard quality/mid range settings. There is no way they are going to downgrade the textures, they will make it available for higher end computers if they can use them. Honestly for once its refreshing to see a company not bullshot the hell out of game screens where only but a few can see it that way, but at the same time seeing these reactions I know why most companies do use bullshots.

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That's exactly it though, since everyone else is showing their games at almost unrealistic graphic settings, you would assume that SE is doing the same, if not stated otherwise. I mean, why put yourself in a worse light than other games? However alot of people are saying the same thing you're saying, that they usually show stuff of at standard settings. If that's the case, everything is fine and dandy and we'll all hold hands and 'stuffz', it's just that you can't really assume that video game companies are going for a "realistic" approach when showing of their games. Blame them ebil game companies!

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Originally Posted by Hycinthus

What do you think those 3 icons on the top left ? Maybe Server, or Nation?

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That's what I thought at first but then someone posted on another thread that it looks like different background/lighting settings to see what your character looks like under different light. Which would be very clever.

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Originally Posted by Lurex

Ahhh!! I want to see!!!

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You and me both, man. And just about everyone else in the forums. :p

I think it is really cool that they are using past character names corresponding to the jobs of their test characters.

I'm really glad they brought back Zidane the carpenter...

Wait, does this screenshot mean that our characters will be doing emotes during conversational pieces?
http://www.ffandmore.com/wp-content/...ery-Moogle.png

I'm an Elezen, and I don't like that D;

AKA: I liked to ignore the fact that my characters outward expressions of emotions were either too cool for school, or extremely effeminate.

(I guess we've sort of been doing it all along, It's the more expressive ones that use a lot of motion that I'm scared of)

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Originally Posted by Ikea

I think that's exactly what people in the "hater camp" would want to hear. And I would get it if someone was screaming "OMG 2.0 BAD TEXTURES SO FAIL RELAUNCH FAIL FAIL" that you would call them haters, but stating that the textures are bad, which they are compared to what we have ingame today, is hating on the game? At what graphical quality of the textures would it not be hating to call them out? If they were just a singel color?

Nobody is saying (as far as I know) that those are the only textures that are gonna be released, or that that is DEFINITELY the best settings, most are just saying that the textures are bad compared to the ones we have ingame today, and would like to hear that they're planning/have higher resolution textures ingame for the computers that can handle it. And yes, I could live with them sure, but I don't like downgrading from something better that I have today.

And if I have missed some post that was actually doing some real "hating" just disregard what I wrote and pretend you didn't read it :P

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Wow you took that on all yourself lol I actually never knew you existed until this post, so If I said something personal that you thought was directed at you, let me say that is most certainly not the case. I ligitmatly want that to be a ps3 build running, and believe me, you are far from the worst of anyone making statements about the graphics being shown. I was actually just coming off reading some comments on twitter and pads when i wrote this. Deep breaths bud.

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Originally Posted by Mudd

Wait, does this screenshot mean that our characters will be doing emotes during conversational pieces?
http://www.ffandmore.com/wp-content/...ery-Moogle.png

I'm an Elezen, and I don't like that D;

AKA: I liked to ignore the fact that my characters outward expressions of emotions were either too cool for school, or extremely effeminate.

(I guess we've sort of been doing it all along, It's the more expressive ones that use a lot of motion that I'm scared of)

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Well they were alrdy doing emotes during the bigger CS, now it's just rendered where they actually have input even during normal scenes rather then standing their like a log lol. It'll be interesting to see your character act more lively during all conversational pieces rather then just the important ones.

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Originally Posted by Ikea

That's exactly it though, since everyone else is showing their games at almost unrealistic graphic settings, you would assume that SE is doing the same, if not stated otherwise. I mean, why put yourself in a worse light than other games? However alot of people are saying the same thing you're saying, that they usually show stuff of at standard settings. If that's the case, everything is fine and dandy and we'll all hold hands and 'stuffz', it's just that you can't really assume that video game companies are going for a "realistic" approach when showing of their games. Blame them ebil game companies!

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Because one of the major complaintes about the game when it first released and even long after was that it consumed a gigantic number of resources from Pc's and that only those that could afford high end rigs could play it. It would make perfect sense to me for them to show people that the game is not only getting upgrades content-wise but is also now more accessable to many different types of players. At least, thats what I saw as a possibility. People already know the game is fantastic looking, and look what that got them? WHy would you go out of your way to highlight the graphics when that wasn't enough to keep people playing your game the first time?

I'm pretty sure Bayo stated at one point they take vanilla screenshots, so even if it's PC they're not boosting the graphics to full, they're showing what it will look like without all the bells and whistles which still looks better than a lot of MMOs. People keep throwing around Tera when saying "best graphics"...there's a difference between bright/cartoonlike textures and photorealistic textures in terms of "better graphics".

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Originally Posted by Ikea

I think that's exactly what people in the "hater camp" would want to hear. And I would get it if someone was screaming "OMG 2.0 BAD TEXTURES SO FAIL RELAUNCH FAIL FAIL" that you would call them haters, but stating that the textures are bad, which they are compared to what we have ingame today, is hating on the game? At what graphical quality of the textures would it not be hating to call them out? If they were just a singel color?

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Its worth noting that your view of texture quality depends on your current system. I run a GTX 580 @ 1920x1200 and my settings are pretty high, so to me the screenshots look incredibly crappy - more so than most I imagine. To other people, with average systems, the screenshots might look better than what they have.

So to someone running the game on a 9600GT, I might seem like a total hater since they look at the screenshots and think they are amazing. meh.