Rokien's new thread on Hamlet Defense

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Originally Posted by Krausus

I didn't play much of FFXI but I hear the fights where not near as involved with battle mechanics as the primals, the primals require you to not be able to go far during the fight, the limited space is part of the fight, open world would not allow this.

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That's where you're wrong on two accounts, one of which is as I pointed out - zone-wide attacks, such as those that KV used to pull an entire alliance in. Another is the levequest system currently implemented, in which you cannot travel too far out of the way or else you abandon the levequest.

They could easily put the Primals in the open-world.

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Originally Posted by Lyndis

I think I'm giving up. Instances are boring. I'll stick around till 2.0 to see if this changes. There's no reason to play an instanced final fantasy MMO. Hamlet defense was the one thing I was excited for until now.

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Soo agree, I wanted something like Campaign in FF11, I can't believe this is instance and Max 8 ><

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Originally Posted by eagleone

Soo agree, I wanted something like Campaign in FF11, I can't believe this is instance and Max 8 ><

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Unfortunately it's due to engine limitations.

I would've preferred something more "massive" as well, but I'll take what we can get until 2.0 comes out.

You guys actually wanted this to be like campaign which nobody used except for some bad exp when they couldn't get a party?

If it was so easy like campaign was in FFXI that it didn't take any coordination or anything SE wouldn't give any worthwhile rewards out of it and people wouldn't do it unless they needed exp and couldn't get a party and were out of leves.

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Originally Posted by Dragon

Not only do you intentionally miss the point thinking I'm talking about absurd spawn conditions but you're stupid enough to believe that KV's attack was out of convenience... /headblown

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The spawn condition thing was just a joke.

I'm not saying the Draw-In was designed to be a convenience, but that's how players used it.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

You guys actually wanted this to be like campaign which nobody used except for some bad exp when they couldn't get a party?

If it was so easy like campaign was in FFXI that it didn't take any coordination or anything SE wouldn't give any worthwhile rewards out of it and people wouldn't do it unless they needed exp and couldn't get a party and were out of leves.

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Not true

When it first came out people used it to obtain gear and personally I liked to do this solo, but fight alongside people at the same time. This is why I was hoping it would be like Campaign. I hoped for some currencey that was specific to Hamlet defence and also I wanted some content to do for which I could play solo or in a party.

I get the limitations of the crappy system they're using but seriously.. the Gobbue mount was a better idea than this GLORIFIED LEVEQUEST called Hamlet Crapfense.

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Originally Posted by eagleone

Not true

When it first came out people used it to obtain gear and personally I liked to do this solo, but fight alongside people at the same time. This is why I was hoping it would be like Campaign. I hoped for some currencey that was specific to Hamlet defence and also I wanted some content to do for which I could play solo or in a party.

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I remember the gear you could buy with the allied notes was pretty bad, and below salvage / sky / king / nyzul / gear when it came out most people at 75 didn't bother with it unless they were trying for some crappy exp or rank up for wotg missions then never touched it. Also most of the items had a condition only does X in campaign. They didn't add random chests to it for junk logs, 1 or 2 dynamis currency until a couple patchs later.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

I remember the gear you could buy with the allied notes was pretty bad, and below salvage / sky / king / nyzul / gear when it came out most people at 75 didn't bother with it unless they were trying for some crappy exp or rank up for wotg missions then never touched it. Also most of the items had a condition only does X in campaign. They didn't add random chests to it for junk logs, 1 or 2 dynamis currency until a couple patchs later.

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No some parts was good esp the pld stuff for that magic def tanking set up, and some of the mage parts was good also..

While I agree with you, what a terrible title