Shadowbringers starting to feel like a budget expansion

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Have fun with a mmorpg that is not playble with out addons

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You act Like FF14 doesn't have 3rd party addons or tools that actually add a good bit of QoL...

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Go back already.
WoW refugees honestly overstay for their welcomes.
Shadowland will just be like every other WoW expansion, strong starts and garbage at end.
Have fun with a mmorpg that is not playble with out addons

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I aint a wow refugee xD I play wow veeery casualyl from time to time and Im sayign this because im informed on everything thats coming at it looks very promissing. This community is so full of white knights and toxic ppl, like chill lol. Plus, regardless, wow does even nwo and will always have more subs than ffxiv at its peak so idk why yall trying to compete against it. FFXIV is way more niche and its only as popular as it is because it has final fantasy on it, let's be real shrug*

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Originally Posted by zeylos

I aint a wow refugee xD I play wow veeery casualyl from time to time and Im sayign this because im informed on everything thats coming at it looks very promissing. This community is so full of white knights and toxic ppl, like chill lol.*

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You are making it sounds like WoW was not a toxic community that rotten to the core.
You definitely didn’t know WoW well enough. The statement still legit, every WoW expansion after TBC all starts strong and end up as turd at end. All expansions looks promising at alpha and better because people are using template character. The OP jump the gun by using 10+ patches worst on contents to compare Shadowbringer that is still progress to 2.5

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Originally Posted by splinter1545

You act Like FF14 doesn't have 3rd party addons or tools that actually add a good bit of QoL...

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That are definitely shady one will use 3rd party tools but game itself is function-able without add on. Not just Ff14, most of MMOs are functionable without addon. Do you know how many WoW raid encounters are not playable without DBM?

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

You are making it sounds like WoW was not a toxic community that rotten to the core.
You definitely didn’t know WoW well enough. The statement still legit, every WoW expansion after TBC all starts strong and end up as turd at end. All expansions looks promising at alpha and better because people are using template character. The OP jump the gun by using 10+ patches worst on contents to compare Shadowbringer that is still progress to 2.5

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FF14 community and WoW community is the same but at least the WoW community acknolegde it and don't pretend to be awesome and friendly.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

You are making it sounds like WoW was not a toxic community that rotten to the core.

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It isn't. There's plenty of wonderful people who play WoW. Just as there's plenty of wonderful people who play FFXIV.

Neither is without their rotten apples.

We also got 3 classes in HW, one of each class type. Then it became 2.5(or 3) for SB (2DPS + BLU) and then another 2 for SHB (1tank/1DPS--a DPS which was originally a healer in FFXI so could've easily been a healer).
Fully agree with the OP. Thanks for the lowdown.

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Originally Posted by MOZZYSTAR

We also got 3 classes in HW, one of each class type. Then it became 2.5(or 3) for SB (2DPS + BLU) and then another 2 for SHB (1tank/1DPS--a DPS which was originally a healer in FFXI so could've easily been a healer).
Fully agree with the OP. Thanks for the lowdown.

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But people keep telling us new classes aren't content.

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

You are making it sounds like WoW was not a toxic community that rotten to the core.

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Meanwhile, a sample from the FF14 Community...

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Originally Posted by Divinemights

Go back already.
WoW refugees honestly overstay for their welcomes.

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Inclusive and welcoming, yes?

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Originally Posted by Tlamila

You completely failed to mention the whole DoH/DoL content we got, but sure if something is not of your taste it's not content, right?

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Did this becoming a farming/crafting simulator like Harvest Moon or Stardew Valley? In my opinion, regular content shouldn't be sacrificed for additional content like crafting and gathering. It's great that they added it, but it should not come at the sacrifice of everything else.