Ive no faith in SE/Yoshi-P when comes to balancing healers

Lol too much speculation here, wait for the changes then complain. They could make it easier while making it good just saying

And as I thought. This is EXACTLY why you wait to complain. The changes to White Mage looks like it's going to be SO much fun and I look forward to it.

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Originally Posted by hynaku

I have no faith in Yoshi balancing healers or the tanks. All he knows how to do is buff samurai's and the black mage. Then nerf the other jobs that need buffs.

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Not even that they done right. Nor SAM or BLM has enough damage to make party utilities meaningless.

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Originally Posted by Vivian_Vex

And as I thought. This is EXACTLY why you wait to complain. The changes to White Mage looks like it's going to be SO much fun and I look forward to it.

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I find WHM fun as it is already. However fun =/= balanced. Given what was presented in the live letter I pretty much expect no changes to the status quo of the meta as it stands. I was a wait and see player when they told us no new healer for SB, and I even liked most of the changes to WHM well enough - even if only on a conceptual basis for some of them. All I see now though is more of the same which won't change anything and certainly won't balance the healers.

In a game where all classes can do all content. The balance means very little and you should just enjoy whatever job you enjoy. If the changes end up making the job more fun which is looking to be the case. Well that's only ever going to be a good thing regardless of balance.

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Originally Posted by miraidensetsu

Not even that they done right. Nor SAM or BLM has enough damage to make party utilities meaningless.

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I'm mostly with you but the burst that blms are going to get with Xenoglossy and Despair might make me question this.

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Originally Posted by Vivian_Vex

In a game where all classes can do all content. The balance means very little and you should just enjoy whatever job you enjoy. If the changes end up making the job more fun which is looking to be the case. Well that's only ever going to be a good thing regardless of balance.

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This is fine... in casual content. The moment you step into Savage, where job balance actually matters, it becomes a different story. Earlier you proclaimed WHM is perfect yet it's presently the worst healer by a sizable margin. It offers zero raid utility, has equal or inferior pDPS, limited mobility and its oGCD heals are woefully outdone by the likes of Collective, ED, Excog, Earthly and Indom. So how, pray tell, is WHM supposedly "perfect" when it's borderline useless? Sure, you can still clear everything. But what compelling reason is there to bring a WHM to say, Ultimate or Savage, when an AST can do virtually everything better?

Will the upcoming changes make enough of a difference to bridge this gap? We won't know until we see the tooltops but if everything stays relatively the same, then no. WHM is far from perfectly. It's useless.

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Originally Posted by Vivian_Vex

In a game where all classes can do all content. The balance means very little and you should just enjoy whatever job you enjoy. If the changes end up making the job more fun which is looking to be the case. Well that's only ever going to be a good thing regardless of balance.

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I'm starting to almost hate people who obviously never did anything beyond casual dungeons...
Balance means EVERYTHING. Yes, sure, WHM can do all content. But what is that WORTH, if the other two healers blow WHM out of the water in practically any way possible? Nothing. It's worth nothing at all, because, yes, you can do everything with a WHM. Too bad people prefer to take the best jobs for a certain role with them, and WHM is best at absolutely nothing at all.
Go watch some guides for higher content, especially the last few Omega stages and above, and tell me how many WHMs you see in those videos. It's quite telling. Also, look at some logs and rankings. Even more telling. SCH and AST work extremely well together, they provide the group with fantastic utility, while WHM brings nothing to the table others cannot provide. So why bring a WHM at all? It's like trying to run a marathon with weights bound to your legs. The only reason I manage to continue raiding as WHM is because I form parties with people who know me well. Else I'm pretty sure they would prefer AST or SCH over WHM practically any day of the week.

I have never done savages, only extremes.

I main whm because i just like it.

But the difference is just:
Ast buffs damage, making things go way faster since the damage of everybody outweights the damage you do as an ast by far.

Sch can buff damage with chain stratagem. Also, shields are really great and excog is amazing. Having a fairy helps a lot too. Also.
Critlo.

It's such abig difference that you may be able to prevent a wipe because of a shield and just killing everything faster because you can constantly buff people than... being able to throw regens on people that usually goes to waste with random groups anyways.

But hey, benison is great, right...? Yeah i do like benison but come on.

Whm is perfectly playable but it just needs something to be a bigger help to others.
Also it needs help itself since the lillies are still utter garbage.

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Originally Posted by CelestaRosa

when yoshi p says their gonna make whm easier. do know what am hearing.

- whm has no end game. whm has no ulitity other classes can do more damage. so two things gots happen here either buff the grap out of whm. watch one happen or nerf the crap other too healers. so they can understand what it feels like have your main nerfed to oblivion
- everyone will hate now. your gonna make final fantasy mystic quest levels of dumb. i know you Asians think us western idiot judging some of world
- this isn't balance this is savage nerfing a class does it need be nerf. while nerfing whm to oblivion while giving other healers bunch op skills.
- is whm a healer class? cause i mean you sure not making it be one
- need fire who ever through it was good idea "keep repose and fluid aura. and got rid of stoneskin and stoneskin II and nerf holy. like it was complex choice to make.
- please stop making dumb choices with my main job thank you

- i want main my healer whm in stormblood but messed that up for me thank you squire enix. for making white-mage trash. I not looking forward too your next attempt on making white better.. in my eyes worse
- again 6 years no new healer job. disappointed.

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well he proved you wrong. This is probably now the most balanced mmo ever created. GG yoshi :D