Transfer Restrictions and Roleplayers

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Originally Posted by Vexander

Well, that's a lovely attitude with which to try and entice RP'ers to leave the comfy safe atmosphere of Balmung with...

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Maybe I'd be nice if you guys weren't showing just how childish and ridiculous you are. How are we to know you don't act like this in your RPs? Because if this is how you act over a temporary ban on world transfer... geez.

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Originally Posted by Koti

As someone who runs the RPC on Mateus, while yes the Balmung RPers may be over-reacting a bit, this is by no way a means to behave or act.
Many of the folks on Mateus also come from Balmung, including myself and while I devote now nearly all my time in operating the Roleplay community ON Mateus, this is not going to help anyone taking such an attitude.

I have no problem with anyone from Balmung and really, you should have a bit more tact on how you say things to those who are having a difficult time right now with something that has been thrown at them.

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But it's TEMPORARY? I don't understand at all what they are even upset about. if they are already on balmung what does it even matter to them?

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

But it's TEMPORARY? I don't understand at all what they are even upset about. if they are already on balmung what does it even matter to them?

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See, that is where my confusion is. Where are people saying it is 'INDEFINITELY' closed? SE didn't say that. They said it was 'Transfers to the following Worlds will be suspended until their active player populations have stabilized.'

Why? Because anyone who has ever been around for a game launch or Xpac release knows everyone comes back to play and rushes on all at once to try and do what they can. After like 2-3 months people then go back to their way of life and hop back to the game they were originally playing. Happened in Heavensward, Happened with Legion, will happen with Stormblood as well. I mean, does no one remember the 500+ queue times to log in for the first month of Heavensward? Now we're back to the normal 10-20 queue during peak hours.

They will open it back up. Just not until after Xpac.

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Originally Posted by Endeleon

But it's TEMPORARY? I don't understand at all what they are even upset about. if they are already on balmung what does it even matter to them?

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Because they had friends that we planning to transfer in after the datacenter move and those friends ended up being locked out by the surprise change.

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Originally Posted by Foofy

See, that is where my confusion is. Where are people saying it is 'INDEFINITELY' closed? SE didn't say that. They said it was 'Transfers to the following Worlds will be suspended until their active player populations have stabilized.'

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While I admire Yoshi-p and his team, I think this decision is out of their hands. People are valid to be wary given customers service and care isn't something they are known for, especially in the West. Might be different in Japan though. Couldn't tell.

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Originally Posted by Foofy

See, that is where my confusion is. Where are people saying it is 'INDEFINITELY' closed? SE didn't say that. They said it was 'Transfers to the following Worlds will be suspended until their active player populations have stabilized.'

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In my interpretation of SE's words, this is basically the same as the character creation lockouts. Basically, there are too many connections to Balmung at any point in time that it's hazardous to the server health and overall gameplay experience. Especially in a new data center with new (probably) servers that haven't been fine-tuned to the game perfectly. Given that Balmung has been placed into this status in a content lull where most of the come-and-go players aren't currently subscribed, the population will spike up even higher once 4.0 releases and the people who haven't subbed come back.


So yes, it's technically "temporary" but it could take months or possibly years for Balmung's population to naturally decrease to a point that it'd be opened up again. And in the meantime, that still wouldn't answer "where should people go if they want to RP in FFXIV?"

I keep seeing criticisms that seem to be based off of the assumption that Balmung is 100% filled with RPers, which it demonstrably is NOT.

One of the biggest factors in Balmung's overpopulation is the fact that it's effectively two servers' worth of communities packed into one. The non-RPers of Balmung (who are themselves quite populous) and the RPers.

The best solution is to have a designated RP server so that all RPers can draw from the largest community without worrying about the volume of their respective servers.

It'd be ideal for Balmung, Faerie, Jenova, Siren, and Mateus RPers to all be on the same server.

There shouldn't have to be a forced split of the RP community, unless the RP-designated server is filled with RPers to 100% capacity. Which is definitely not the case now.

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Originally Posted by Velynea

While I admire Yoshi-p and his team, I think this decision is out of their hands. People are valid to be wary given customers service and care isn't something they are known for, especially in the West. Might be different in Japan though. Couldn't tell.

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RP isn't something well known in Japan. Yoshi-P even asked if that was a thing.

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Originally Posted by reiichi

In my interpretation of SE's words, this is basically the same as the character creation lockouts. Basically, there are too many connections to Balmung at any point in time that it's hazardous to the server health and overall gameplay experience. Especially in a new data center with new (probably) servers that haven't been fine-tuned to the game perfectly. Given that Balmung has been placed into this status in a content lull where most of the come-and-go players aren't currently subscribed, the population will spike up even higher once 4.0 releases and the people who haven't subbed come back.

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If it takes years and no one has RP communities on other servers then the RP communities themselves are at fault for this, not SE. I would love to see another server have a large community like Balmung; hell, fairly sure Maetus and Faerie are trying.

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Originally Posted by Foofy

See, that is where my confusion is. Where are people saying it is 'INDEFINITELY' closed? SE didn't say that. They said it was 'Transfers to the following Worlds will be suspended until their active player populations have stabilized.'

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While I'm not in any real bandwagon rush to leave or move or stay, you realize that indefinitely means possibly to an infinite or an unspecified amount of time? It's not a fixed time. Stabilization of Balmung's population could take a week, a month, or even years. Or if no one transfers, never.

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Originally Posted by Marluxia

I keep seeing criticisms that seem to be based off of the assumption that Balmung is 100% filled with RPers, which it demonstrably is NOT.

One of the biggest factors in Balmung's overpopulation is the fact that it's effectively two servers' worth of communities packed into one. The non-RPers of Balmung (who are themselves quite populous) and the RPers.

The best solution is to have a designated RP server so that all RPers can draw from the largest community without worrying about the volume of their respective servers.

It'd be ideal for Balmung, Faerie, Jenova, Siren, and Mateus RPers to all be on the same server.

There shouldn't have to be a forced split of the RP community, unless the RP-designated server is filled with RPers to 100% capacity. Which is definitely not the case now.

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Will the Balmung RP community move to the new server though?