I expected absolutely nothing and was still disappointed with Ultima.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

So a fight that wasn't designed to actually be put in the game means that 4.0 will be awful... Got it.

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The current state of the game, this entire expansion, abd SE's own stated forecast for what they want to do with the game in 4.0 is what implies 4.0 well be awful.

Ok first the title of the thread is silly. I get disappointed but the title is being melodramatic.

Second, this was a boss designed for 24 random people at fanfest to fight without familiar hotbars and keybinds. It wasn't ever going to be hard.

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Originally Posted by Belhi

Ok first the title of the thread is silly. I get disappointed but the title is being melodramatic.

Second, this was a boss designed for 24 random people at fanfest to fight without familiar hotbars and keybinds. It wasn't ever going to be hard.

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First: I think the title is referencing the Malcolm in the Middle meme "I expect nothing and still I'm disappointed."

Second: It's not that the fight isn't hard, at least for me, it's that they shoehorned it into Dun Scaith instead of making it its own instance. Urth's Fount wasn't particularly hard, but it was still fun and a unique instance.

If they didn't tell us about this i think it would've been way more cool if we didn't know about it beforehand. :x

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Originally Posted by Dualgunner

First: I think the title is referencing the Malcolm in the Middle meme "I expect nothing and still I'm disappointed."

Second: It's not that the fight isn't hard, at least for me, it's that they shoehorned it into Dun Scaith instead of making it its own instance. Urth's Fount wasn't particularly hard, but it was still fun and a unique instance.

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Might have just have been a time issue. People were asking for it in game but right now they would be all hands on expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting into the crunch period now. Setting aside time to do more work on this would have meant having devs not working to complete the expansion. Crappy yeah but that's just how things are some times.

I was expecting an epic Odin-like fight. I actually was disappointed and shocked to see Ultima in Dun Scaith. Like - "HUH/WTF?"

Does blood sword still drop there?

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Originally Posted by RukiaFae

People are more upset about the lazy application of Ultima. People expected a separate 24 man trial. Not them just slapping him in a pre-made dungeon. They could have been creative with it but sadly they dropped the ball hard. They could have just saved the development time, if they are going half do something. They could have just added in accessories to the dungeon and called it a day. I have a question. Why is Ultima even there? What is the lore behind it?

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translated a bit from goblinese... Ultima weapons were produced as anti-primal war machines and the demonic activity on dun scaithe(which is in abalathia's spine near azys lla) is similar enough to have attracted the proto ultima to it.

as for rewards people were asking about earlier, it doesn't interfere with any dun scaithe rewards except the blood sword and is just a weekly quest like the one in mor dhona for crystal tower. You get a token you can trade for any accessory slot for any class or an ultima themed glamour chest piece

and for difficulty, at the fan fest we were only wearing ~230-240ish gear so he lasted longer. He doesn't do anything that requires prior knowledge like savage raids but it can get super hectic with tons of stuff going on all at once. It's a shame they didn't re-tune him for ~260

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Originally Posted by DeeColon

The current state of the game, this entire expansion, abd SE's own stated forecast for what they want to do with the game in 4.0 is what implies 4.0 well be awful.

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Those who expect the worst will get the worst every time.



on the topic of ultima, yeah he's dissapointing...but after all he's an incomplete version of a machine we beat the crap out of with a third of the party size and at a much lower strength. somehow i'm not suprised he's a faceroll.

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Originally Posted by saber_alter

Those who expect the worst will get the worst every time.



on the topic of ultima, yeah he's dissapointing...but after all he's an incomplete version of a machine we beat the crap out of with a third of the party size and at a much lower strength. somehow i'm not suprised he's a faceroll.

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That's not true, I had no prior insight on the fight or anything involving Ultima. After reading people's disappointment in the fight, even though I haven't done it yet myself, I am fearful for SE as well as the community, things have gotten to the point mostly due to the constant horizontal climb, that we have gotten to a state where the content isn't a challenge, whether content is skippable because of high dps, or the fights are under tuned.

This was shown as a trail and implemented as a trash boss, almost as if SE was experimenting with updating older fights to include a variety of possible enemy spawns, while that is good, and makes the fights have a longer longevity, the game isn't properly built to handle such a system.

Agreed..... this was so terrible I nearly cried with laughter when we beat it in 80 seconds.