Lets Talk About UNDERCUTTERS!!!!

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Originally Posted by Sylve

I undercut by 1gil only so that my entry is the first one on the list. Technically the cheapest, but depending on the city the buyer happens to be in ... ! gil undercuts are fine. Yours will still sell to someone who dodges the tax, and even if mine sells before yours, you dont have to adjust to match me because yours is automatically the lowest on the market.

Its funny that undercutting wars happen because "i want mine to sell FIRST!" So they list and relist and relist and relist until you hit 1 gil and suddenly it has no value.
if you get undercut by a vast amount, Leave it alone. Eventually someone will buy it.

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What you are suggesting is basically price fixing and destroys the concept of a free market. Just deal with it, people can do whatever they want.

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

What you are suggesting is basically price fixing and destroys the concept of a free market. Just deal with it, people can do whatever they want.

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Inert value is part of free market, and so is not changing price, free market meaning do what you want. You could crash the market if you bought up the market and vastly undersold (or oversold) product that has high demand. Capitalism works, and in time will even rebound form such a crash. There is a reason India moved to capitalism and the UK is going back to capitalism (not to mention USA).

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Originally Posted by Veilqa

I would also like to say that when the prices have smaller gaps, everyone makes money. I put up a vanya coat i bought for 50k. relisted it for 150k. About a week later, someone else puts one up underneath it for 90k gil. Why? Why not 149,999 or a few gil lower. Why undercut yourself so harshley? Guess what, theyre 90k coat? Its still for sale. Retarded if you ask me.

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Then both your prices are not low enough for the current market. What is wrong with trying to get your item to sell at all?

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

You undercut me, I crash the market. You can price match or you can get out. Deal with it.

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If you want to spend a vast amount of gil to do that have fun. Undercutting is fine, and fair, do not see your great offense to it. I also forgot time if you wanted to crash lets say Dragon skins oyu would have to make sure to constantly buy out until only your underpriced items are on the list. I think the easiest thing, with enough money, would be to crash the ilvl 180 craft gear (if there is any lol).

What I find funny is people putting up finished items for less then the mats sell for.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

What I find funny is people putting up finished items for less then the mats sell for.

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Isn't that normal since they are forced to make things to level up their job? It's always going to be a net loss since they have to make things people likely won't want or cost more than is worth it for most levels.

I think this issue is generated out of pure ignorance of how a market board/auction house actually works. If prices are remotely close even by a few gil, if the potential buyer wants the item enough, they will pay what it costs. For people to drive down prices with no basis whatsoever except a quick sale, then that is in its purist form, complete stupidity. Had many discussions about this with an FC member and frankly the "severe" undercutters must be suffering from some I.Q. deficiencies.

I would also like to say that when the prices have smaller gaps, everyone makes money. I put up a vanya coat i bought for 50k. relisted it for 150k. About a week later, someone else puts one up underneath it for 90k gil. Why? Why not 149,999 or a few gil lower. Why undercut yourself so harshley? Guess what, theyre 90k coat? Its still for sale. Retarded if you ask me.

You undercut me, I crash the market. You can price match or you can get out. Deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Lyrinn

You undercut me, I crash the market. You can price match or you can get out. Deal with it.

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Ahahaha. Ok. You do that. Unless you have infinite gil that is only a temporary change and if you drop all your own prices enough all you are doing is throwing away gil out of spite. Then the next day it will be back to normal.

Imagine this situation in real life and realize how absurd of a notion that is.

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Originally Posted by IzzyData

Ahahaha. Ok. You do that. Unless you have infinite gil that is only a temporary change and if you drop all your own prices enough all you are doing is throwing away gil out of spite. Then the next day it will be back to normal.

Imagine this situation in real life and realize how absurd of a notion that is.

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In real life massproducing is a common thing. In a game, it is not. It is far easier to control supply in a game.

Can we talk about the obnoxious tools who want you to price the items you sell to their liking? Who the hell do they think they are? When my inventory space gets tight and it is more often than not, and both my retainers have 20 items up for sale, I will sell stuff WELL BELOW MARKET value, too bad for you. Buy it and resell if it wads your knickers. If I want to buy something and I need gil fast...guess what, I price it to sell fast. I am so so sorry that the market drops for you a little bit call the waaaambulance.